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Penn Square and OAK are going after different markets. They absolutely can co-exist and most cities have examples of enclosed traditional malls and upscale outdoor centers, often in close proximity. ...

I always feel like vacancy numbers for offices are terribly misleading. As Bomber indicates, there are are a lot of places that are just riding out the leases. A trend I have seen a lot, is that a...

I promised myself I would refrain from commenting on this thread any more but do want to tip my cap to soonerguru. Well-written and I agree with every word.

The Chiefs are not moving to Oklahoma City.

They aren’t moving anywhere except possibly the Kansas side of the KC metro area, but I don’t even believe that. This was an opening salvo in a...

I have high hopes here.

Building styles have changed immensely in the years since the surrounding neighborhoods were built, and nobody expects exact duplicates of Crown Heights/Edgemere but I do...

I would say one more thing. We all cringe and cry when we see old pictures of the buildings that were destroyed downtown during the Pei Plan, and generally we're right to be upset. OKC lost...

I've written this before, but OKC is actually in a pretty fortunate position, in that growth is spread in multiple directions from downtown. It's probably a bit lopsided to the north and northwest,...

Such a good point, Pete. I always look at these new developments like Citizen and Phillips Murrah with a bit of a "glass half empty/glass half full" reaction.

It is certainly nice to see,...

Hertz is not headquartered in Oklahoma City.

What about Macklanburg-Duncan?

Interesting. So the majority of units in this building are actually planned to be one-bedroom units?

I would be curious how that ratio compares to other projects around town or even in other...

We all know how large OKC is geographically, and why. But it’s still crazy to me, looking at that Google Earth image, that that airport is actually in Oklahoma City proper. It seems so far west.
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The St. Louis County jail is right in the middle of downtown Clayton and there are condos that are literally $2 million within a couple of blocks. Every residence within 5 minutes of that building is...

I appreciate the people that made the video and of course, many thanks to Pete for grabbing the screen shots.

I'm completely discounting the supertall. With respect to the other towers, my first...

Everybody sees things from their own perspectives and neither of us is "right" or "wrong."

Personally I find it hard to believe a developer will spend what will easily be hundreds of millions of...

Largely agree with you, although I've never understood the need to "go vertical" simply for the sake of "going vertical." I definitely don't want one-story strip malls anywhere in the core but,...

I am far more excited about the dense, 35-story towers that represent the first phase of this development. They will be considerably more impactful to the city and have a far better chance of getting...

I certainly respect what you are writing. Vandals and trespassers should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Gently though I would remark that time marches on. Properties that are "out in...

CC,
Thank you for the anecdote. I am sure that someone will soon chime in about how the retail world of your memory is not how retail works any more. Little stores like the ones you reference don't...

OkieBerto,
I respect what you have written and don't disagree, except to say that the occasional inability to park directly in front of a store at CC or NHP could be considered a feature, rather...

Bill,
I appreciate your response. In full disclosure I did not grow up close to Mayfair and I do not have much personal history with it at all. I just enjoy studying cities and one thing I have...

Sigh. I am frustrated and it is my own fault that I am really not able to get my point across. Let me try once more.

I am not saying these new places will not have increased economic activity. I...

The lack of ability to recognize nuance is frustrating. I’m not pointing to any particular poster, but to the internet in general. This corner does not have to be a multi-level mixed use masterpiece...

That’s how I feel about this whole development.

Will the combined headquarters be in OKC?

I will say - in going upthread and reacquainting myself with this development, the actual buildings do look more attractive and modern than what I am otherwise seeing in these pictures. It doesn't...