Immigration

Tim....I'm with anderson...I am getting sick and tired of having to go down each month to the local immigration office and get fingerprinted and interrogated to prove my nationality

Damn liberals and their amnisty!!!

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Dwight Schrute: Reject a woman and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind. Also, weak arms.

Ohhhhh...that's what he meant! It really doesn't bother me because I lost my fingerprints in WW II (nasty flamethrower incident) and it's a great place to pick up hot foreign chicks. Those burkas make me so hot!

I believe the immigration amnesty program was enacted during Carter. Plus... Have you ever heard of an I9?

If I remember correctly, the amnesty program occured during the Reagan administration. I could be wrong.
As far as an INS form I-9; people who have never owned or been in a management position of a buisiness and had to hire & fire employees,would have any experience with this form.

A quick GOOGLE search reveals the Immigration Refom and Control Act of 1986.
covering 2.7 illegal aliens. Definately during the Reagan admistration (1980-1988)

[quote=JIMBO;96066]If I remember correctly, the amnesty program occured during the Reagan administration. I could be wrong.
As far as an INS form I-9; people who have never owned or been in a management position of a buisiness and had to hire & fire employees,would have any experience with this form. [/quote

It may have gone into effect under Reagan, however, it was planned and approved under Carter, therefore, the Democrats get the blame. It went down hill from there, and Clinton made it worse.

[quote=mranderson;96073]That's a pretty cool approach....Everything you liked during a president's term was of course planned and implemented by him, but the bad things were planned and approved beforehand by the previous administration and just fell on the good guy's watch

Rush couldn't have explained it any better mra!

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Dwight Schrute: Reject a woman and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind. Also, weak arms.

[quote=Easy180;96078]Stick to your Lugar mranderson. Carter did it. Don't back down.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- In a striking reach across party lines, the White House and key lawmakers agreed Thursday on a sweeping immigration plan to grant legal status to millions of people in the country unlawfully.

Sealed after months of secretive bargaining, the deal mandates bolstered border security and a high-tech employment verification system to prevent illegal workers from getting jobs.

President Bush said the proposal would "help enforce our borders but equally importantly, it'll treat people with respect."

The compromise brought together an unlikely alliance of liberal Democrats such as Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and conservative Republicans such as Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona on an issue that carries heavy potential risks and rewards for all involved.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said debate would begin on Monday, but he cautioned, "I don't know if the immigration legislation is going to bear fruit and we're going to be able to pass it."

Almost instantly, the plan brought vehement criticism from both sides of the immigration issue, including liberals who called it unfair and unworkable and conservatives who branded it an overly permissive "amnesty."

The proposal constitutes a far-reaching change in the immigration system that would admit future arrivals seeking to put down roots in the U.S. based on their skills, education levels and job experience, limiting the importance of family ties. A new class of guest workers would be allowed in temporarily, but only after the new security measures were in place - expected to take 18 months.

"This is a bill where people who live here in our country will be treated without amnesty but without animosity," Bush said.

Kennedy hailed it as "the best possible chance we will have in years to secure our borders and bring millions of people out of the shadows and into the sunshine of America."

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Dwight Schrute: Reject a woman and she will never let it go. One of the many defects of their kind. Also, weak arms.

Rewarding people for breaking the law. Don't you love it?

I think people here are forgetting something. I am an American because I was born here in the greatest country on earth. I will never lose my citizenship even if I live in another country.

My husband is not an American, he is Canadian. We moved here in 2001. The first step in immigration is to become a Permanent Resident. That means getting your Green Card.

Do you know how much this costs? $1000

Then after you have lived here as a permanent resident for 3 years its another $675.

I don't know what the answer is regarding the illegal immigrants coming over from Mexico.

How these poor people who want to live here legally can raise that kind of money. Certainly not with the wages they make in their own Country when they have to support themselves and their families.

My great-great grandparents were immigrants from Poland. I have no idea how they got here except they came on a boat.

I'm glad no one shot them.

I should follow up with the fact that we have just applied for the 2nd step and are in the process of hubby's citizenship! We have saved up the $675 and filed about 2 weeks ago. This involves fingerprinting (again), interviews, civics and english test and then the oath.

It will be a proud day for both of us!!

Congratulations. Just make sure he keeps the "eh" stuff to a minimum.

As far as shooting immigrants, who exactly is doing that?

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As far as the "eh" factor, he feels right at home at a Blazers game!

Re: shooting, I was referring to the first "solution" of the poll and a couple of subsequent posts.

The best way to tell if an employer hired an illegal is to look at the wages being paid. There are no jobs in America that americans won't do, there simply are wages in America that americans won't accept!

You can't compare the Ellis Island experience many of our ancesters endured with what is going on with the illegal aliens sneaking across our borders. The old style legal immigrant got off the boat with next to no help, learned the language and made good lives for themselves. The current crop of illegals aren't learning the language and they are overrunning our social programs. In certain areas of the country, you might as well be in Central America and I especially include the courthouses, social service departments and the schools. As part of my job, I advocate for children to get services. Most of you would be utterly shocked at what poverty, poor parenting and ignorance is costing our citizens to provide counseling, mentoring, tutoring, parenting classes, housing subsidies, mental health/substance abuse assessments, public defenders, food stamps, residential facilites and jails. The illegals have been getting all the forgoing AND an interpreter. I know a number of attorneys who no longer do court apppointed work because they can't understand their clients and they spend literally hours trying to find an interpreter. The focus for years was the allegation that illegals would do jobs Americans wouldn't do. I find that premise shaky to begin with, but it also completely ignores the real problem behind illegal immigration. I will be HAPPY to pay more for produce and other services.

Don't mean to be negative - but I see this everyday.

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Mr. Fox - tear down that wall......