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Old 09-03-2009, 09:09 AM
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RealClearPolitics - Video - Obama's Green Jobs Czar Van Jones: Republicans Are "A**holes"

Sounds like the administration has been busy picking Soros approved advisors....

God help us.... Communists in the white house. SELF AVOWED even.
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Remember though, Obama doesn't play politics. His administration is all about change. His administration is about uniting people, not being divisive.


Gawd. The media ran brilliant campaign for Obama. They knew damn well the American public was stupid enough to believe them... and they were right.

Things are falling apart for them rather quickly now that most people have seen the Obama's true colors (hard to keep a house of cards standing for too long). But there are still a lot of people drinking the kool-aid. For instance, those dumb enough to believe Obama's health care reform is actually about health care, those dumb enough to believe cap and trade legislation has anything to do with the climate, those dumb enough to believe the stimulus had anything to do with fixing the economy. More and more are getting it each day though, and that's a good sign.
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Van Jones should be more careful speaking next time. The correct sentence would be "MOST Republicans are A**holes". As for the whole "Commie!!" thing - Jones wrote a book called "The Green Collar Economy" just last year that supports a public-private collaboration to foster the development of more "green" jobs. How commie of him to want to grow a new sector of the free market!
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:40 AM
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Born in 1968 in rural West Tennessee, Van Jones earned a B.A. degree from the University of Tennessee at Martin and then attended Yale Law School. During his years at Yale, Jones served as an intern with the San Francisco-based Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights (LCCR), which views the United States as an irredeemably racist nation and "champions the legal rights of people of color, poor people, immigrants and refugees, with a special commitment to African-Americans."

Jones says that he first became politically radicalized in the aftermath of the deadly April 1992 Los Angeles riots which erupted shortly after four L.A. police officers who had beaten the infamous Rodney King were exonerated in court. "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th," says Jones, who is black, "and then the verdicts came down on April 29th. By August, I was a communist."

Jones was arrested during the L.A. riots and spent a short time in jail. "I met all these young radical people of color," he recalls, "I mean really radical: communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.' I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary."

After earning his Juris Doctorate from Yale in 1993, Jones relocated to San Francisco, where he helped establish Bay Area PoliceWatch, a hotline and lawyer-referral service that began as a project of LCCR. In 1996 he founded the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights, which, claiming that the American criminal-justice system is infested with racism, seeks to promote alternatives to incarceration. According to the Baker Center:

"Decades of disinvestment in our cities have led to despair and hopelessness. For poor communities and communities of color it's even worse, as excessive, racist policing and over-incarceration have left people even further behind."

By the late 1990s, Jones was a committed Marxist-Leninist-Maoist who viewed police officers as the arch-enemies of black people, and who loathed capitalism for allegedly exploiting nonwhite minorities worldwide. He became a leading member of Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), a now-defunct Bay Area Marxist-Maoist collective that was staffed by members of various local nonprofits, a number of whom had ties to the Ella Baker Center.

In the early 2000s, Jones and STORM were active in the anti-Iraq War demonstrations organized by International ANSWER, a front group for the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party. STORM also had ties to the South African Communist Party and it revered Amilcar Cabral, the late Marxist revolutionary leader (of Guinea-Bissau and the Cape Verde Islands) who lauded Lenin as "the greatest champion of the national liberation of the peoples." (In 2006 Van Jones would name his own newborn son "Cabral" -- in Amilcar Cabral's honor.)

During his tenure with STORM, Jones collaborated on numerous projects (including antiwar demonstrations) with local activist Elizabeth "Betita" Martinez, who served as a "mentor" for members of the Ella Baker Center. Martinez was a longtime Maoist who went on to join the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism (CCDS), a Communist Party USA splinter group, in the early 1990s. To this day, Martinez continues to sit on the CCDS advisory board alongside such luminaries as Angela Davis, Timuel Black (who served on Barack Obama's 2004 Senate campaign committee), and musician Pete Seeger. Martinez is also a board member of the Movement for a Democratic Society, the parent organization of Progressives for Obama. Martinez and Van Jones together attended a "Challenging White Supremacy" workshop which advanced the theme that "all too often, the unconscious racism of white activists stands in the way of any effective, worthwhile collaboration" with blacks.

In 2005 Jones and the Ella Baker Center produced the "Social Equity Track" for the United Nations' World Environment Day celebration, a project that eventually would evolve into the Baker Center's Green-Collar Jobs Campaign -- "a job-training and employment pipeline providing 'green pathways out of poverty' for low-income adults in Oakland."

Soon after attending the Clinton Global Initiative in September 2007, Jones launched "Green For All," a non-governmental organization "dedicated to building an inclusive green economy strong enough to lift people out of poverty … advocating for local, state and federal commitment to job creation, job training, and entrepreneurial opportunities in the emerging green economy - especially for people from disadvantaged communities."

In 2008 Jones published his first book, The Green Collar Economy, which focused on environmental and economic issues. The book received favorable reviews from such notables as Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, Laurie David, Winona LaDuke, environmentalist Paul Hawken, and NAACP President/CEO Ben Jealous.

Jones has served as a board member of numerous environmental and nonprofit organizations, including the Rainforest Action Network; Free Press; Bioneers (which accepts the United Nations Millennium Ecosystem Report's warning that "[h]uman activity is putting such strain on the natural functions of Earth that the ability of the planet's ecosystems to sustain future generations can no longer be taken for granted"); the National Apollo Alliance (which seeks "to catalyze a clean energy revolution that will put millions of Americans to work in a new generation of high-quality, green-collar jobs"); the Social Venture Network (which aims "to build a just economy and sustainable planet"); and Julia Butterfly Hill's "Circle of Life" environmental foundation.

Jones was also a Senior Fellow with the Center for American Progress and a Fellow at the Institute of Noetic Sciences.

In March 2009, President Barack Obama named Jones to be his so-called "Green Jobs Czar." Jones' formal title is "Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation" for the White House Council on Environmental Quality.




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He has yet to come out and disavow his own self proclaimed communism.

"commie thing" huh? Yup. Commie thing. definately.
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Old 09-03-2009, 10:17 AM
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Wait till the rest of his interviews become mainstream. Heads are going to roll. This guy is totally OUT OF CONTROL and ULTRA RADICAL, and Obama has put him in a position to affect his ideals. This Van Jones doesn't want to "transform the economy"; he in his own words wants to use his bully pulpit to "transform the entire society."
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RealClearPolitics - Video - Obama's Green Jobs Czar Van Jones: Republicans Are "A**holes"

Sounds like the administration has been busy picking Soros approved advisors....

God help us.... Communists in the white house. SELF AVOWED even.
I'm not going to go the communist route in commenting about Van Jones and his name calling. I don't like it when conservatives personally attack liberals or their family members (a la Rush Limbaugh and Chelsea Clinton) but I see an all-too-common trend among Democrats of a certain ilk to very easily excuse themselves from common decency and courtesy and go right for the 3rd grade name calling - especially when among what they consider to be a Democrat-friendly crowd.

Had this been a Bush cabinet member saying the same of Democrats, he would have been brutally lambasted, it would have played over and over and over again on the media, there would be talking heads making harsh and critical comments about it and there would be calls for his resignation. You would have heard Dem's all over the media and the blogs calling such a demeaning, low class comment as "typical of the Republicans" and "representative of those..." who don't have the same opinions as Democrats.

Can anyone tell me if this video has played anywhere but FoxNews?
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:14 AM
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Mug, you don't have to. See above. He admits he's a communist and has never backed off of it. There's no attack needed, only observation. And by association and the whitehouse's own admission, "We've been following Van Jones for years and are excited to have his intellectual ideals ... blah blah blah...

They fully vetted him. And still appointed him.
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Amazing..... I am just interested in knowing if any of the other networks showed this video clip or if only when I saw it on Fox.
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I'm not going to go the communist route in commenting about Van Jones and his name calling. I don't like it when conservatives personally attack liberals or their family members (a la Rush Limbaugh and Chelsea Clinton) but I see an all-too-common trend among Democrats of a certain ilk to very easily excuse themselves from common decency and courtesy and go right for the 3rd grade name calling - especially when among what they consider to be a Democrat-friendly crowd.

Had this been a Bush cabinet member saying the same of Democrats, he would have been brutally lambasted, it would have played over and over and over again on the media, there would be talking heads making harsh and critical comments about it and there would be calls for his resignation. You would have heard Dem's all over the media and the blogs calling such a demeaning, low class comment as "typical of the Republicans" and "representative of those..." who don't have the same opinions as Democrats.

Can anyone tell me if this video has played anywhere but FoxNews?
Please tell me your biggest concern with Van Jones isn't that he called Republicans a**holes. Of all the things he says, being called a name is the least of my concerns.
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Please tell me your biggest concern with Van Jones isn't that he called Republicans a**holes. Of all the things he says, being called a name is the least of my concerns.
Repubs have been a little "thin-skinned", shall we say, since being voted out of power. Of course all the ranting and raving about being called this name hasn't stopped any of them from throwing around terms like "nazi" and "commie" and "socialist". As for Van Jones, a cursory look shows he turned away from his extremist past sometime in the 2002-2005 time frame. Of course, since this whole thread is just a Copy & Paste of the latest crazy conspiracy theory from the certifiably-insane Glenn Beck, you wouldn't have seen the whole story.
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:16 PM
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OK - so a far-left reporter for a far-left newspaper in a far-left city says the new far-left leader of the far-left environmentalist isn't as far-left as he use to be, and we are supposed to feel better about it. Does that sum up your rebuttal?

Forgive me if I still think he is a wako communist.
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Thin skin? No, more like appalled at the current road to socialism. And Kerry's quite correct, the name calling is the least of the concerns.

Oh, he turned away from extremist past huh? Bullshi7. The stuff I'm hearing is from 2009.
Glenn Beck is not insane. He's a tireless supporter of the American way of life. You should be so lucky to ever aspire to half of his status as a patriot and an American.

A cursory look shows that Glenn Beck is spot on with his suspicions about Van Jones. As is the case every time I've listened to him speak. You are welcome to call him names, discredit his message by attacking him, but the facts and Van Jones' own words from this year stand on their own merit.

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http://www.capitalresearch.org/blog/...msummation.pdf

He's a 9/11 Truther.

Hot Air Blog Archive Wonderful: “Green jobs” czar Van Jones is a Truther
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I think we all have gone thorough political evolution and devolution.
I started out as a moderate republican,a theocratic,a extreme militaristic,a liberal, a communist, a imperialist, and of course a dictator whose ready to send 50 million to reeducation camps. Because I am tired of showing dumda$$e$ the error of their ways, ie being unwilling to become educated about the issues I happen to care about.
As for Van Jones, I think he's a bit more American then most.
He at least willingly to involved the private sector as a partner, not having to make them do right kicking and screaming.
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Well, I thought a "truther" was someone who thought the government conducted 9/11 and was engaged in a cover-up, whereas it appears to Van Jones is saying the government knew it was going to happen and let it. The latter is a bit less crazy since Bush was handed a document "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Within America" and no clear action being taken -- though I don't share Van Jones' view.

But gmwise's message is well-taken, that it's really interesting to observe how people change their political philosophies over time, and it can certainly appear sinister to people who entrenched in their beliefs at age 16 and could never imagine changing them. But people screaming "commie!" every time someone is shown to have a different political viewpoint from them is growing very tiresome.

And yes, Glenn Beck is bat***t crazy. Don't make me post the videos...
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oknacreous - you and your fellow libs are beyond disgraceful.

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Jones joined the "9/11 truther" movement by signing a statement in 2004 calling for then-New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer and others to launch an investigation into evidence that suggests "people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war."

The statement asked a series of critical questions hinting at Bush administration involvement in the attacks and called for "deeper inquiry." It was also signed by former Rep. Cynthia McKinney and Code Pink co-founder Jodie Evans.
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oknacreous - you and your fellow libs are beyond disgraceful.
Well, since you've opened the door to brutal honesty, I think you and your fellow cons are whiny fascists who got rightfully booted out of office for deep corruption and rampant abuse of power. So what part of "I don't share Van Jones' view" did you not understand, exactly?
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Well, since you've opened the door to brutal honesty, I think you and your fellow cons are whiny fascists who got rightfully booted out of office for deep corruption and rampant abuse of power. So what part of "I don't share Van Jones' view" did you not understand, exactly?
I guess it wold have to be the part where you defended him. BTW - learn what fascism is. It is the politics of national socialist (i.e. the dominant wing of the modern democrat party).
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Kerry, you have NO understanding whatsoever as to the historical meaning of National Socialism and Nazism. My god!!!

And since I'm here ...... I WANT to understand what you are saying with your theory here; I would LOVE for it to be something that seemed as good to ME as it seems to YOU. But I keep getting lost in it all and I haven't even come up with good, logical, well framed guestions to help you see what I'm missing. I'm hoping I CAN come up with some before this thread dies.
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Kerry=Nutso same number of letters, I bet its even in the Bible Code...lol
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Isnt Beck and Limburger recovering addicts?
OH and since The President is being found guilty by association, I guess Kerry is one as well.
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Van Jones should be more careful speaking next time. The correct sentence would be "MOST Republicans are A**holes". As for the whole "Commie!!" thing - Jones wrote a book called "The Green Collar Economy" just last year that supports a public-private collaboration to foster the development of more "green" jobs. How commie of him to want to grow a new sector of the free market!
He's a real capitalist, all right. Just like the Chinese. Capitalists to the rest of the world but oppressive to their own.
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He's a real capitalist, all right. Just like the Chinese. Capitalists to the rest of the world but oppressive to their own.
America is corporatism not capitalist, it doesnt help entrepreneurs its stifles real competition thanks to the corporate lobbyists.
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Well, since you've opened the door to brutal honesty, I think you and your fellow cons are whiny fascists who got rightfully booted out of office for deep corruption and rampant abuse of power. So what part of "I don't share Van Jones' view" did you not understand, exactly?
Oh, no...you don't share his view.... 'Only SOME Republicans are *** holes." Just another liberal who degrades himself to name calling when he can't come up with any facts to back up his opinion. Just innuendo and hypocritical pot-calling-the-kettle-black accusations without presenting any examples you can back up.

I believe the terms you used, "whiny, corruption and abuse of power," 3 things we are seeing more and more coming from the Obama camp making the Bushies look better and better. And no, I am far from a Bush supporter, just don't like hypocrisy.

Finally, who are you to be calling anyone a fascist when your beloved Obama administration has an openly communist/socialist Van Jones as a key member of the administration? - appointed as an unapproved "czar" with the power of a cabinet member but without Congressional approval. The prolific use of unapproved "czars" within the Obama administration is an abuse of power in and of itself.
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The Republicans are notorious with name calling.
The Democrats only feel that way when they hear stupid people speak.
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