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Former Reagan adviser endorses Obama
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Duberstein is pulling for Obama.
(CNN) — Former Reagan chief of staff Ken Duberstein told CNN's Fareed Zakaria this week he intends to vote for Democrat Barack Obama on Tuesday.

Duberstein said he was influenced by another prominent Reagan official - Colin Powell - in his decision.

"Well let's put it this way - I think Colin Powell's decision is in fact the good housekeeping seal of approval on Barack Obama."

Powell served as national security advisor to Reagan during Duberstein's tenure as chief of staff.

Duberstein spoke with Zakaria about his final days in the Reagan White House. The Reagan official, along with Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and Carter National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, also discussed the transition process to a new administration.

Watch the full discussion on the next administration this Sunday at 1 p.m. on Fareed Zakaria GPS.

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Old 10-31-2008, 05:18 PM
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Republicans just keep abandoning ship. Thank God, there's still time for more people to change their minds and vote for Obama.
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A lot of people don't know Duberstein is a black Muslim Kenyan socialist with a forged birth certificate.
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I would have figured there were plenty of gullible people to go around to think a lot of them know that.
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I would have figured there were plenty of gullible people to go around to think a lot of them know that.
Because I know you folks are such sticklers for fair and balanced, I've added a couple of prominent democrats who are supporting McCain.

From CNN Political Editor Mark Preston, Extra

A prominent backer of Hillary Clinton is endorsing McCain.


WASHINGTON (CNN) — Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.

The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.

Forester was a major donor for Clinton earning her the title as a Hillraiser for helping to raise at least $100,000 for the New York Democratic senator’s failed presidential bid.

In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

“This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

Forester is the CEO of EL Rothschild, a holding company with businesses around the world. She is married to international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Forester is a member of the DNC’s Democrats Abroad chapter and splits her time living in London and New York.

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Wendy Sutton a speech writer for Obama, Edwards and Clinton switches to McCain.

Here's a bit of what she wrote. You can't find anything from the Lame Stream Media about this because they don't think it's newsworthy since it's not about a republican defecting over to the democrats side.

When we first met, Obama and I had a nice conversation about speeches and writing, and at the end of the meeting I handed him a pocket-sized bottle of Grey Poupon mustard so he wouldn’t have to ask staff if it was okay to put it on his hamburger. At the bottom of the bottle was the logo for “The South Beach Diet” and he snapped, “Oh so you read People magazine.” He seemed to think that I was commenting on his bathing suit picture.

I helped with his announcement speech and others. I worked in the Senate when he was in D.C. One day after a hearing on Darfur, we were walking back to the office. I was still hobbling from a very bad ankle injury and in a very kind and gentle way he offered his arm when we approached the stairs. But later in debate preps and phone conversations and meetings, I realized that I had made a mistake. I didn’t belong. No matter how hard I tried, my heart wasn’t in it anymore.

...The final straw came the other week when Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher (a.k.a Joe the Plumber) asked a question about higher taxes for small businesses. Instead of celebrating his aspirations, they were mocked. He wasn’t “a real plumber,” and “They’re fighting for Joe the Hedge-Fund manager,” and the patronizing, “I’ve got nothing but love for Joe the Plumber.”

Having worked in politics, I know that absolutely none of this is on the level. This back and forth is posturing, a charade, and a political game. These lines are what I refer to as “hooker lines”—a sure thing to get applause and the press to scribble as if they’re reporting meaningful news.

As the nation slouches toward disaster, the level of political discourse is unworthy of this moment in history. We have Republicans raising Ayers and Democrats fostering ageism with “erratic” and jokes about Depends. Sexism. Racism. Ageism and maybe some Socialism have all made their ugly cameos in election 2008. It’s not inspiring. Perhaps this is why I found the initial mocking of Joe so offensive and I realized an old line applied: “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party; the Democratic Party left me.”

The party I believed in wouldn’t look down on working people under any circumstance. And Joe the Plumber is right. This is the absolutely worst time to raise taxes on anyone: the rich, the middle class, the poor, small businesses and corporations.

...Not only has this party belittled working people in this campaign from Joe the Plumber to the bitter comments, it has also been part of tearing down two female candidates. At first, certain Democrats and the press called Senator Clinton “dishonest.” They went after her cleavage. They said her experience as First Lady consisted of having tea parties. There was no outrage over “Bros before Hoes” or “Iron My Shirt.” Did Senator Clinton make mistakes? Of course. She’s human.

But here we are about a week out and it’s déjà vu all over again. Really, front-page news is how the Republican National Committee paid for Governor Sarah Palin’s wardrobe? Where’s the op-ed about how Obama tucks in his shirt when he plays basketball or how Senator Biden buttons the top button on his golf shirt?

...Governor Palin and I don’t agree on a lot of things, mostly social issues. But I have grown to appreciate the Governor. I was one of those initial skeptics and would laugh at the pictures. Not anymore. When someone takes on a corrupt political machine and a sitting governor, that is not done by someone with a low I.Q. or a moral core made of tissue paper. When someone fights her way to get scholarships and work her way through college even in a jagged line, that shows determination and humility you can’t learn from reading Reinhold Niebuhr. When a mother brings her son with special needs onto the national stage with love, honesty, and pride, that gives hope to families like mine as my older brother lives with a mental disability. And when someone can sit on a stage during the Sarah Palin rap on Saturday Night Live, put her hands in the air and watch someone in a moose costume get shot—that’s a sign of both humor and humanity.

Has she made mistakes? Of course, she’s human too. But the attention paid to her mistakes has been unprecedented compared to Senator Obama’s “57 states” remarks or Senator Biden using a version of the Samuel Johnson quote, “There’s nothing like a hanging in the morning to focus a man’s thoughts.”

...I was dead wrong about the surge and thought it would be a disaster. Senator John McCain led when many of us were ready to quit. Yet we march on as if nothing has changed, wedded to an old plan, and that too is a long way from the Democratic Party.

I can no longer justify what this party has done and can’t dismiss the treatment of women and working people as just part of the new kind of politics. It’s wrong and someone has to say that. And also say that the Democratic Party’s talking points—that Senator John McCain is just four more years of the same and that he’s President Bush—are now just hooker lines that fit a very effective and perhaps wave-winning political argument…doesn’t mean they’re true. After all, he is the only one who’s worked in a bipartisan way on big challenges.

Source: So Long, Democrats - The Daily Beast
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A lot of people don't know Duberstein is a black Muslim Kenyan socialist with a forged birth certificate.
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"I feel like he is an elitist." — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a member of the DNC’s Democrats Abroad chapter who splits her time living in London and New York.
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"I feel like he is an elitist." — Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a member of the DNC’s Democrats Abroad chapter who splits her time living in London and New York.
She's humble.
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You should read her bio, before you belittle and judge her.
The Rothschilds the greatest international banking family the world has ever seen.
Consistently battle facists, communists, and anti semitics.
Now boys and girls notice that facists and communists are listed differantly.
Thats because facists is extreme right wingers, the communists, is the extreme left wingers, in between is the liberals and conservatives and royalists, and finally the socialists.
These terms are not interchangeable.
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You should read her bio, before you belittle and judge her.
Maybe she should read Obama's bio before she starts parroting McCain's talking points.
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Maybe she should read Obama's bio before she starts parroting McCain's talking points.
She did, that's why she's supporting McCain. Not everyone drinks the Obamessiah Kool-Aid. Hard to believe isn't it?
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and not all of us drink the McNasty Kool-Aid. I still don't know what he stands for because hes too busy blaming the Democrats for everything.

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and not all of us drink the McNasty Kool-Aid. I still don't know what he stands for because hes too busy blaming the Democrats for everything.
You don't know what McCain stands for? LOL! Well, either you've had your head in the sand (or somewhere else) for quite a few years, or you have a reading comprehension problem.

You know far less about "The One" (two year senate record) than you do about McCain (thirty year senate record), but that doesn't seem to matter to you, does it? As long as he's the most liberal senator in congress what else is there to know, right?
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You don't know what McCain stands for? LOL! Well, either you've had your head in the sand (or somewhere else) for quite a few years, or you have a reading comprehension problem.

You know far less about "The One" (two year senate record) than you do about McCain (thirty year senate record), but that doesn't seem to matter to you, does it? As long as he's the most liberal senator in congress what else is there to know, right?
I'm really not sure what McCain stands for since all of his ads are about Obama.
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I'm really not sure what McCain stands for since all of his ads are about Obama.
Oh, is that how you decide who to vote for, watching TV ads? LOL! I thought people voted based on what they learn about the candidate's record. Watching the TV commercials doesn't seem like a very intelligent way to decide who to vote for. I thought you Obama supporters were the intelligent ones, and that we McCain supporters (in Oklahoma), are just a bunch of backwards, redneck hillbillies (at least that's what's been said on this forum). Even a backwards hillbilly like me doesn't rely on commercials to decide who to vote for. I research the candidates record on the internet to educate myself, not rely on a slick commercial put out by the candidate. Google is your friend.
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just a bunch of backwards, redneck hillbillies (at least that's what's been said on this forum). Even a backwards hillbilly like me doesn't rely on commercials to decide who to vote for.

YOU are the one saying that, not me, and I have done my homework. thank you.
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YOU are the one saying that, not me, and I have done my homework. thank you.
I'm glad you did your homework. I applaud you for that. However, you are wrong about me being the only one who's saying that. You can deny it all you want, but, facts are facts. It's all recorded right here in the political forums for anyone who cares to read it.
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Even a backwards hillbilly like me doesn't rely on commercials to decide who to vote for. I research the candidates record on the internet to educate myself, not rely on a slick commercial put out by the candidate. Google is your friend.
Cause of course most information found on the good ole internet turns out to be accurate and definitely never biased

Relying on the internet is just as bad
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Cause of course most information found on the good ole internet turns out to be accurate and definitely never biased

Relying on the internet is just as bad
Not if you use google. They're liberal, ya know?
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You should read her bio, before you belittle and judge her.
The Rothschilds the greatest international banking family the world has ever seen.
Consistently battle facists, communists, and anti semitics.
Now boys and girls notice that facists and communists are listed differantly.
Thats because facists is extreme right wingers, the communists, is the extreme left wingers, in between is the liberals and conservatives and royalists, and finally the socialists.
These terms are not interchangeable.
Wrong. You need to study up on the terms you are using.
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Yea, she probably did read his bio and accomplishments, the campaign had it put on ink pens and match books they hand out at the campaign stops. Once she figured out all the abbreviated words like Soc,Com, Mar, Rai,Tax, she jumped ship to McCain.
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I just love how the press' has adopted follow the herd mentality.

"Hey John Q. Public, Joe Bubblehead is voting for __________. you should too."


Apparently, people forget what happens when you follow the herd. The herd take you to such lovely places like off the slide of the cliff or the slaughter house.

People need to wake up in this country. It is a sad day when our best cadidates are Grampa Simpson and Steve Urkle.
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no sorry i stand by my statements and i was saying her HER HER not his read it slow and if you need a helper get a nice white hair lady to help you make the sounds out.
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Oh, is that how you decide who to vote for, watching TV ads? LOL! I thought people voted based on what they learn about the candidate's record. Watching the TV commercials doesn't seem like a very intelligent way to decide who to vote for. I thought you Obama supporters were the intelligent ones, and that we McCain supporters (in Oklahoma), are just a bunch of backwards, redneck hillbillies (at least that's what's been said on this forum). Even a backwards hillbilly like me doesn't rely on commercials to decide who to vote for. I research the candidates record on the internet to educate myself, not rely on a slick commercial put out by the candidate. Google is your friend.
I guess I probably should have said all of his ads and all of his speeches and all of his running mates speeches are about Obama rather than informing us of what McCain/Palin plan to do about anything. All he really ever says in regard to that is "I know how to do that"...but he never tells the rest of us how.
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I guess I probably should have said all of his ads and all of his speeches and all of his running mates speeches are about Obama rather than informing us of what McCain/Palin plan to do about anything. All he really ever says in regard to that is "I know how to do that"...but he never tells the rest of us how.
Since the media is keeping us in the dark about "The One" somebody has to talk about him. McCain and Palin are doing it because the media won't. I see your point though, but seriously, no matter what the candidates say they're going to do, rarely do they live up to their promises. That's the way it is on both sides. Sad, but that's the nature of politics today, they promise us the world and deliver very little.
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