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Old 09-08-2006, 02:17 PM
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I received this today - what do you think about this?


Dear MoveOn member,
In a little over 48 hours, ABC will air a five-hour "docudrama" on the 9/11 attacks. The movie was written and produced by a right-wing activist who fabricated key scenes to blame Democrats and defend Republicans.1 It's so partisan that even Rush Limbaugh was surprised ABC decided to air it.2 And an FBI agent who was brought in to consult on the docudrama quit because, he said, "they were making things up."3

Public outrage is mounting across the country, and Variety reports that ABC is now "mulling the idea of yanking the mini altogether."4 But we only have a little time to act. We'll start delivering this petition to ABC headquarters tomorrow at noon and continue as more signatures come in. So we're looking for 200,000 signatures TODAY.

Can you sign? Click here:
http://pol.moveon.org/abcdoc?id=8709-7023997-Gycv.mk.F9LABor.kFIhgA&t=4
Then please pass on this message to folks you know who can help.

The Path to 9/11 appears to be part of a coordinated push—including speeches by President Bush and millions of dollars in advertising—to exploit the five-year anniversary of 9/11 for political gain. That's not acceptable from anyone—especially not a news organization like ABC.

It's not just that ABC's movie is slanted. Big parts of it are simply untrue. The producer himself even admitted to simply improvising a key scene which depicts the Clinton administration letting bin Laden go when they had him in their sights—a complete fabrication.5 Last night, the movie's star, Harvey Keitel, said "It turned out not all the facts were correct."6
It's really pretty simple: ABC shouldn't have any role in the political exploitation of 9/11. But this docudrama is designed to do just that—spreading a false message to millions of viewers across the country.

Sign the petition to tell ABC not to air partisan propaganda on 9/11. Click here:

http://pol.moveon.org/abcdoc?id=8709-7023997-Gycv.mk.F9LABor.kFIhgA&t=5

Thank you for all you do.

Nita, Eli, Carrie, Joan, Jennifer and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Friday, September 8th, 2006

P.S. For the most current information on the scandal involving this film, and for more information on the movie itself, please visit our friends at ThinkProgress:
http://www.thinkprogress.org
Sources:
1. "Writer of ABC's 9/11 'Docudrama' Is Avowed Conservative Activist," ThinkProgress, September 1, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2047&id=8709-7023997-Gycv.mk.F9LABor.kFIhgA&t=6

2. "Clintonoids Prepare To Attack 9/11 Movie," The Rush Limbaugh Show, August 30, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2049&id=8709-7023997-Gycv.mk.F9LABor.kFIhgA&t=7

3. "FBI Agent Who Consulted On Path to 9/11 Quit," ThinkProgress, September 7, 2006
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/07/fbi-agent-quit/
4. "Under fire, ABC mulls yanking mini," Variety, September 7, 2006
http://www.variety.com/VR1117949675.html

5. Greg Mitchell, Editor & Publisher, MSNBC appearance, September 7, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2077&id=8709-7023997-Gycv.mk.F9LABor.kFIhgA&t=8

6. "Harvey Keitel speaks out on Path to 9/11: 'It turned out not all the facts were correct'", Showbiz Tonight, September 7, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2078&id=8709-7023997-Gycv.mk.F9LABor.kFIhgA&t=9

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Old 09-08-2006, 02:32 PM
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Man some people need to lighten up...almost every docudrama twists things to make it more entertaining

ABC just needs to put a little disclaimer at the beginning each night explaining that some events in the series may be made up...Let's hope actual voters wouldn't base their vote on a miniseries
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:38 PM
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Conservatives complain all the time about a liberal bias in the media. Now, it's the liberals' complaining.

Everyone is biased.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:39 PM
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the path to 9/11 appears to be part of a coordinated push...
so this show is part of some right wing conspiracy to defame the previous administration? sure, abc is cashing in on the tragic event... but i really doubt they're tryng to bolster any particular political party.

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the producer himself even admitted to simply improvising a key scene which depicts the clinton administration letting bin laden go when they had him in their sights
while the specifics of the event are likely drama, it has been argued that such an event took place... so it's not something that the writers just totally made up.

i think it's crass of abc to try to milk 9/11 to get viewers. however, i think that it amounts to censorship for clinton and his former top officials to lobby the public to force this drama not to air. while this show may be politically charged, this response is no less political in nature. -M
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:40 PM
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I heard on the Al Franken Show (on XM radio) that ABC was actually considering pulling and or editting the broadcast.

Yes, made-for-TV shows often throw in twists to make things entertaining, however, 9/11/2001 was NOT an entertaining day for the U.S. Of all things, we need the true story, not partisan spin. I signed the petition when I received my notice from MoveOn.
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:46 PM
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Where was MoveOn when Michael Moore was spreading lies about the events on 9/11?
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:50 PM
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So I guess you were also opposed to Fahrenheit 9/11 and pushed theaters to not show the movie...Last I heard there were just a couple entertaining twists in that movie based on the unfortunate events of 9/11
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:51 PM
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oops...midtowner beat me to the punch
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:56 PM
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I was thinking the same thing as Midtowner. The hypocrisy from MoveOn is so thick you can almost cut it with a knife, but it's fun to watch them go into convulsions over this. However, the most amazing thing about this thread is that I learned that Al Franken is still on the air.
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:17 PM
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I think MoveOn was just upset that Alec Baldwin and Tim Robbins weren't cast
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:36 PM
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ABC has said it will run a disclaimer four times during the broadcasts that declares, "The movie is not a documentary."

That's enough for me
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:59 AM
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As long as the disclaimer is there and it is prevalent, I have no problem with them showing the mockumentary. I am curious though why ABC wouldn't let Bill Clinton see it in advance, but it was cool for Rush Limbaugh to get it. That's what sounded fishy to me about this whole thing.

The difference between this and Fahrenheit 9/11 is that Michael Moore did not produce the movie for a "Big 3" network and it has not ran on public access TV.

Alas, as long as the disclaimers are there and they aren't appearing to be completely biased, there isn't a problem.
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Old 09-09-2006, 08:35 AM
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Michael Moore didn't run it with a disclaimer either. Also, I don't think your "difference" is all that big a deal. I'd bet ya even money that more people have seen Moore's propaganda than will watch the ABC "docudrama."
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:15 PM
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I am just disappointed about the fact there are people who want to make a profit on one of the worst tragedies in American History.

9/11 happened and it was a horrific event. I was there to witness every moment just like every other American who could comprehend anything on 9-11-2001.

The only thing that should happen regards to 9/11 is the yearly memorial service. It should be kept private out of respect for the friends and family of those who were lost. The media should keep it simple and note a moment of silence on every September 11 for those who where lost on that day.

The people who lived through it need to heal. They do not need be reminded by a dozen movies, news specials and commentary about how it affected America.

Who cares who is to blame, pointing fingers is not going to change anything. Figure out what could have been done to prevent it, implement changes to prevent it and move on.
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:56 PM
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I am just disappointed about the fact there are people who want to make a profit on one of the worst tragedies in American History.

9/11 happened and it was a horrific event. I was there to witness every moment just like every other American who could comprehend anything on 9-11-2001.

The only thing that should happen regards to 9/11 is the yearly memorial service. It should be kept private out of respect for the friends and family of those who were lost. The media should keep it simple and note a moment of silence on every September 11 for those who where lost on that day.

The people who lived through it need to heal. They do not need be reminded by a dozen movies, news specials and commentary about how it affected America.

Who cares who is to blame, pointing fingers is not going to change anything. Figure out what could have been done to prevent it, implement changes to prevent it and move on.
I agree. It is hard enough for the victims to cope with the yearly anniversary of the bombing. The last thing they need is to see movies that remind them of that tragic day. I will not watch any movie that has to do with September 11, whether it is a documentary or just a movie.
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:13 PM
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It's a free enterprise system. While certain folks won't watch it, this show will definitely bet Grey's Anatomy-esque ratings. Therefore, for airing it, ABC wins.

Why are conservatives all of the sudden so anti-free-market???
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:19 PM
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It's a free enterprise system. While certain folks won't watch it, this show will definitely bet Grey's Anatomy-esque ratings. Therefore, for airing it, ABC wins.

Why are conservatives all of the sudden so anti-free-market???
Nah, I'll watch Grey's Anatomy over any of those movies. Sorry, ABC loses big time.....then, of course, there are violence hungry viewers that would watch the airplanes fly in to the World Trade Center over and over again. I guess that entertains them. Forget politics and be sensitive to peoples' lives.

I'm not anti-fee market, I am pro "let the victims of 9-11 heal, and for once, show a little respect towards them."

That's it for me...if I say anymore, I'll be in trouble.
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:22 PM
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ABC doesn't care about offending you. They care about ratings. They will get ratings from either violence-hungry folks, or others who just want to watch to see what happens.

If you're suggesting that this program be taken off the air in a "let the victims heal" sort of way, then you are simply anti-free-market. You're suspending trade. That makes you by definition anti-free-market.

Wouldn't want you to get yourself in trouble Keith.
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:36 PM
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I am not anti-free market. I just think the tragedy needs to be put to bed. We have to stop feeling bad and start rebuilding are lives. Showing the coverage is going to tear open old wounds.

We have all had someone die tragically in our lives. We do not dwell on the events of the day that it happened. We at most think of them say a prayer and go about our business.

We have to move on and complete the grieving process.

The only people that are watching any of the 9/11 coverage are the same ones who hold up traffic gawking at a car crash.
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Old 09-10-2006, 11:02 PM
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Hey, I'm not saying it's appropriate, or healthy, or anything like that. I'm saying that ABC is showing it because they think a lot of people will watch it.

Are you saying that people will not watch it?
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Old 09-10-2006, 11:52 PM
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Yes, a lot of people will watch it. Most of which are the same people who keep Maury Povich, Jerry Springer and all those stupid judge shows on the air.
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I'm going to throw out a different thought on this topic. While I refuse to watch the docudrama, I did watch a program on A&E last night about the folks who were trapped in the elevators (interesting show that I hadn't seen in the past). What surprised me was when they replayed the footage of the plane flying into the tower, my horror and outrage was like seeing it for the first time. Then I was overwhelmed by pride for the outpouring of support and assistance...things I had conveniently pushed to the back of my mind. It helped me remember the people who suffered the tragedy, those who died, and our troops who are still overseas due in part, to this tragedy.

I think people need the reminders...especially given our newer, more stringent security at airports, concern over illegal immigration, etc. which have become a "nuisance" to us. We forget the point of all the actions that have been taken since 9/11, and unfortunately, we forget those who suffered and died.

I want to be shocked back into reality (not with the gawking at a car crash type stuff, but people's stories) and take my time to remember and pray for those who were so greatly touched by the tragedy.

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Old 09-11-2006, 10:55 PM
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arent democrats the biggest supporters of free speech yet they tried to censor this movie? they seem to be supporters of free speech until it puts them in a bad light. leaders in that party even sent a threatning letter to abc to pull it.
i dont know about you but i am so sick of the bs from them, and the other stupid party. i just want to kick everyone out of office and start over. i see hypocrites, everywhere!
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