Did anyone catch Biden's comments about what Roosevelt did when the stock market crashed? He said, "When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened,”

Ahem. Can you IMAGINE the reaction if Sarah Padin had made that boneheaded remark? Interesting, to me, that the response, myself included, seems to be to just shrug and say, "Oh, whatever. No big deal." Palin would have been crucified and this would have been held up as "proof" that she is an idiot and unprepared.

Am I right?

If Biden had previously appointed secessionists, 'patriot militia' commanders, high school classmates and members of his church to key government jobs; had argued that he was ready to deal with Russia because he's seen Russia from an island and had used Yahoo! mail for government communications to conceal his intentions from the voting public and other government officials, then yes, I suppose there would have been some public reaction.

As it is, I think the best you've got is a paragraph stolen from a Neil Kinnock speech sixteen or so years ago.

I'd like to see the left's reaction if Palin had tapped on someone's chest and told them they needed to work on their pecks. They'd swoon.

Andrew Sullivan

The double standard is amazing. The media has no credibility. The goal is to get Obama elected period!!

Simple statement, but you hit-the-nail-right-on-the-head.

Ain't it awful. The media have completely forgotten she hunts moose, and whatever.

Andy Sullivan? A liar calling someone a liar. Rich. LOL!

Yes you are, right! It was hilarious. Imagine what would be happening if another
vice president nominee said something that stupid. Some people aren't reading
their history books.

I can't remember not knowing who was president during the Crash of '29. We
learned it in grade school.

Here's an AP for those who missed it. Biden's Bozo

The point is of this thread is that the left is not willing to jump on Biden when he said something stupid but everyone knows that if Palin said this, they'd be screaming to the heavens and insisting that it actuallly proved that dumb-girl-Sarah is unfit to be much more than a car wash attendant. I think it is a hoot that a lefty immediately jumped in and tried to change the subject to lying. And while I am on the subject, what do you wanna bet that if Palin had said exactly what Biden did that in addition to being crucified as an idiot, at least a few of them would have insisted that Palin was actually deliberately LYING about Roosevelt.

The hypocracy is one of the things that makes that party such a joke. They don't even try for basic fairness. They are so used to the "Bush lied" mantra, that is SO pursuasive among themselves, that they throw that it (or its equivalent - now it is Palin lies) out everytime - EVERYTIME - that someone says something they don't want to hear. It is the equivalent of putting their fingers in their ears and shouting, "I can't hear you, I can't hear you!"

East Coast. You bring up a reasonable point. But let's be honest, Palin has been cloaked and coddled by the GOP since her nomination. She "refuses" (really it's a case of they won't let her) answer questions that the American voting public should have a right to have answered. And then when called out on that, her handlers turn around and point to the "big bad awful press. Boo Hoo."

It's like they want their pit bull, but don't want to really put her in the ring to show the world what she can, or cannot, do. Kind of like participating in a beauty pageant with just the bathing suit and "talent" portions of the competition being seen. The public won't ever get to hear the interview where she talks about "world peace."

As for hypocrisy. It goes both ways. Let me ask you this: what would have happened had it been Obama's 17-year-old daughter who was pregnant? Do you think the "she chose life, isn't that wonderful" argument would have seen the light of day? Hell, no. Rush, Hannity and the other high-horse moralistas would have pounced all over the issue, showing how that proves that Obama does not share their "family values," blah blah blah, and how painfully obvious it is that abstinence-only education is the only/best way to inform kids about sex.

Both sides do what they think they need to do to win. Keeping Palin and her dirty little secrets in the dark from the voting public is one way to make sure her golden-girl image isn't tarnished. Once the clock strikes midnight, though, the glass slipper will drop, and we'll see her for the pretty little ash girl that she is.

Edit:As for Biden. Let's face it. The guy is boring. He doesn't have the media's interest right now because he hasn't been, and isn't being touted as the "second coming of (name your hero here)" like the GOP is pushing Palin to be. In short, he just ain't so darn cute.

Frankly, this race would be a lot more interesting now had Hillary been the veep choice for Obama. I'd love to see her and Palin square off, and not on SNL.

So if I understand the pathetic argument here, it's that someone is imagining what the reaction MIGHT have been if Palin had made Biden's spoken gaffes, getting all upset over that imagined event, and then using that faux outrage as an excuse to whine that anyone would dare point out Palin's pathological lying about real issues. This is, yet again, a right-winger getting all worked up with faux-outrage over a non-issue. Sad and pathetic but what I've come to expect from the right-wing lately. I wonder what the fake outrage will be about tomorrow?

Of course the liberals are not willing to jump on Biden (or Obama) when he says something stupid. Hypocrisy and dishonesty pretty well sums it up for these folks. Their basic mindset is that republicans are stupid rednecks who vote for republicans simply because they are ignorant. Just look at the posts on the political forum here and see what the leftists kook aid drinkers are saying. Oklahomans are a lot smarter than the looney left give them credit for, but they don't see it that way. I've lived in California for twenty three years, Washington State ten years, Minnesota over two years and Oklahoma for the past twenty years (can you guess my age now?). I've enjoyed living in each one of those places, but one thing that I have come to appreciate about about the people of Oklahoma is the incredible amount of common sense they have. In all of the places I've lived, not many people have displayed as much common sense as the people of Oklahoma have (minus a few of the elitist liberals that post here).

For those of you who want a good laugh, go to the "BidenGaffeClock" that the GOP put out. It has all of Biden's latest gaffes on videotape since he became the VP pick for Obama. It's a hoot!

Republican • National • Committee

In East Coast's defense, she is one of the few posters here who has actually shown non-partisan common sense in the majority of her posts. I certainly wouldn't go so far as to call her a "right-winger" as she has not shown that at all. From what I see, she is simply pointing out what she sees as a fallacy with regard to the media coverage.

As for the Biden Gaffe Clock, do we need to remind you of Bush's own voluminous bundle? The thing could fill a presidential library. In fact, it probably will, given the fact he has little else to account for.

So as to not be hypocritical and all, I assume you'll also be posting a link to a Bush/McCain/Palin Gaffe Clock, too, won't you?

There's no double standard at play. Biden just doesn't have the attention of the media. Biden could paint himself with pink polka dots and run naked through the DC Mall and the media wouldn't notice.

I'm certain this will be talked about by the usual suspects but it doesn't have legs because there's too much other stuff going on.

In many ways, this is evidence of why Palin was a bad pick. Her negatives are sucking all the oxygen out of the negative side of the race.

The stories are so numerous and so solacious, they write themselves.

I was a the grocery yesterday and Palin's picture or name was on the cover of every tabloid.

Why, you ask?

Its not because the damn librulmedia has set out to slander America's newest pure white conservative superstar.

It is because the tabloid press exists purely to sell scandal to bored people and there's so much juicy scandal between the babies, dopers, shotgun weddings, and everything else, they don't even have to try.

Biden made a Gaffe. It's a pretty good one as far as gaffes go but nothing compared to the novelty of queen pit bull.

McCain presented a media bored for excitement with years worth of sensational fodder.

Since when has it been a candidates job to do opposition research on themselves?

If I recall politics 101, a candidate presents thier best side while presenting thier opponents' worst.

To expect otherwise would be....well....stupid.

To claim hypocrisy or any other silly stuff is understandable considering the enourmous shift in the polls in the past 10 days or so.


RCP Average 09/17 - 09/23 -- Obama +3.2

Gallup Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 2740 RV 47 44 Obama +3
Rasmussen Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 3000 LV 49 47 Obama +2
Hotline/FD Tracking 09/21 - 09/23 903 RV 48 42 Obama +6
ABC News/Wash Post 09/19 - 09/22 780 LV 52 43 Obama +9
Ipsos-McClatchy 09/18 - 09/22 923 RV 44 43 Obama +1
Battleground Tracking 09/17 - 09/23 800 LV 46 48 McCain +2
CNN/Opinion Research 09/19 - 09/21 697 LV 51 47 Obama +4

WRONG!! At least not so on AM talk radio and Fox News on cable.

Not to mention people are skipping over the very thing that Jay Leno noticed last night! TELEVISION?! There were no TV's back in 1929!! LOL... I'm sure he meant radio, but get your facts straight.

I didn't bother to read the thread.

But I thought I'd bring the following important information to the discussion:Herbert Hoover, not Roosevelt, was the President in 1929.

Further, television?

Someone needs to brush up on their history before making such claims.

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Do you mean to tell me that FDR wasn't president during the crash of 1929?

Gee whiz!

Come to think about it, I learned that in grade school. Where it Biden go to
school? He's older than me.

Are you saying tha television wasn't a form of the media during this time?

You'd think that somebody running as vice president would know this. That is
unless he's a left winged extremist... oh... he is...


some people aren't reading their history books...








nuff' said...

I know. I remember it just like it was yesterday.

BTW. Things smell a lot like they did yesterday.