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Old 09-07-2008, 03:31 PM
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Default McCain's won't let Palin speak without "Deference and Respect"

Say what you will about Palin, but she appears to be so fragile, according to Rick Davis, McCain campaign manager Rick Davis on Fox News Sunday, September 7, 2008 that she will not answer questions from the media until they treat her with
"deference and respect."

Will the rest of the world agree to these terms when McCain strokes out and she's President?

I'm sorry Mr. Bin Laden, but you have to agree not to bomb any more US cities until you agree to do so with proper deference and respect to Queen Sarah.

Obama answers all the stupid, disrespectful, and absurd questions of the media and the idea of "deference" has never even come up.

Clearly Obama has no business being President if he doesn't demand deference from the world.

And people find Obama arrogant.

It would be funny were it not so sad.

So, in order for her to do media events like Biden, Obama, and McCain do every day, the media much agree to bow before her, kiss her ring, clean the royal toilet, and then agree to only ask her the questions that she has scripts to answer?

Davis says she'll let everybody know what then need to in her speeches.

What are they afraid of?

She won't even appear on FOX. Even Obama will appear on FOx and O'reiley snorted with disrespect at each of Obama's answers.

Or, perhaps they just hope to bury the record of lies by keeping the media from asking about it.

Interesting strategy if you ask me.

Is the strategy to keep her from having to answer for:

How she loved the bridge to nowhere until it became politically expedient to throw Stevens under the bus and claim that she single handedly defeated it?

How She's under investigation for corruption (trooper gate)?

Her pretty non-mainstream religious views like Alaska is God's promised land for christians after armeggedon?

How She has sexually active but abstemtuous teens (that's not a contradiction in fundie land, I guess),

And a record of lots of really, really, bad policy brought to you by her and her unelected husband in chief, Todd?

Mighty interesting, if you ask me.
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Old 09-07-2008, 03:51 PM
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Say what you will about Palin, but she appears to be so fragile, according to Rick Davis, McCain campaign manager Rick Davis on Fox News Sunday, September 7, 2008 that she will not answer questions from the media until they treat her with
"deference and respect."

Will the rest of the world agree to these terms when McCain strokes out and she's President?

I'm sorry Mr. Bin Laden, but you have to agree not to bomb any more US cities until you agree to do so with proper deference and respect to Queen Sarah.

Obama answers all the stupid, disrespectful, and absurd questions of the media and the idea of "deference" has never even come up.

Clearly Obama has no business being President if he doesn't demand deference from the world.


And people find Obama arrogant.

It would be funny were it not so sad.

So, in order for her to do media events like Biden, Obama, and McCain do every day, the media much agree to bow before her, kiss her ring, clean the royal toilet, and then agree to only ask her the questions that she has scripts to answer?

Davis says she'll let everybody know what then need to in her speeches.

What are they afraid of?

She won't even appear on FOX. Even Obama will appear on FOx and O'reiley snorted with disrespect at each of Obama's answers.

Or, perhaps they just hope to bury the record of lies by keeping the media from asking about it.

Interesting strategy if you ask me.

Is the strategy to keep her from having to answer for:

How she loved the bridge to nowhere until it became politically expedient to throw Stevens under the bus and claim that she single handedly defeated it?

How She's under investigation for corruption (trooper gate)?

Her pretty non-mainstream religious views like Alaska is God's promised land for christians after armeggedon?

How She has sexually active but abstemtuous teens (that's not a contradiction in fundie land, I guess),

And a record of lots of really, really, bad policy brought to you by her and her unelected husband in chief, Todd?

Mighty interesting, if you ask me.
I think they don't want blood spilling from the press when Sarah Baracuda gets though with them.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:33 PM
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Yeah...that's it. She'll be mean to them...that's why they want "deference" and "respect."

Or, are you saying she's so mentally unstable that she'll go postal on them as soon as she's challenged?

That seems more likely. Then, she'll get her own self-fulfilled prophecy of Alaskan Armageddon.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:39 PM
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I just love to watch how liberals react when they know that they're losing the debate. It's hilarious to see the garbage that spews out of their mouths when they go into panic mode. You can't pay to get entertainment this good. LOL!
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:44 PM
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I just love to watch how liberals react when they know that they're losing the debate. It's hilarious to see the garbage that spews out of their mouths when they go into panic mode. You can't pay to get entertainment this good. LOL!
Great minds think the same.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:50 PM
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Welcome to the real world Mrs. Pallin where disrespect is a normal occurance I guess maybe she thought because she was political figure it would be diffenrent. Those of us who are not political figures know all about being disrespected by politicians.
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Welcome to the real world Mrs. Pallin where disrespect is a normal occurance I guess maybe she thought because she was political figure it would be diffenrent. Those of us who are not political figures know all about being disrespected by politicians.
Was that meant to be disrespectful to Governor Pallin or am I just looking for too many things?

BTW. Welcome to the discussions or cussions as my kids say.
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Old 09-07-2008, 04:59 PM
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I love to see what panic does when it spreads far and wide through the idiot brigade as it dawns on them what a barracuda pit bull bomb they're sitting on. Say GOP, get bit in the ass much?

"We would love to tell you what Palin will do when she gets that 3 AM phone call, but, she's a lady and you don't treat ladies except by puckering up and applying a big wet kiss to our buttocks."

That will do wonders to assuage the fear that the GOP loves to play on.

And, you're implying that Chris Wallace is a liberal because he dared question Davis on why they won't let Palin talk to the press?

Fox is now the "liberal" news channel?

What world do you guys in habit anyway?
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:02 PM
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I love to see what panic does when it spreads far and wide through the idiot brigade as it dawns on them what a barracuda pit bull bomb they're sitting on.

"We would love to tell you what Palin will do when she gets that 3 AM phone call, but, she's a lady and you don't treat ladies except by puckering up and applying a big wet kiss to our buttocks."

That will do wonders to assuage the fear that the GOP loves to play on.

And, you're implying that Chris Wallace is a liberal because he dared question Davis on why they won't let Palin talk to the press?

What world do you guys in habit anyway?
So because she is a woman she can't answer the phone at 3?
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:06 PM
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Oh yeah, I thought you weren't speaking to me dubya? Is all forgiven now? I guess not since the best you can still come up with is name calling.

Let's not debate the substance, lets just say "liberal, liberal, liberal, typical liberal, limbaugh lib, lib, libby libby libby on the label, liberal, liberal, liberal.

Anything less than ass kissing worship of queen van palin is so hurtfull to you tender hearted, thin skinned...whatever you call yourselves, you must resort to emotional responses like name calling. Only, you can only figure out one name to call...imaginative, you're not.
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:08 PM
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I'd like to know what is meant by 'deference and respect,' but I'm guessing that it has a bit to do with the tabloidesque coverage of her teenage daughter and the Huffington Post speculation the week prior to that as to whether Trigger was her daughter's baby and it was all a cover up.

I guess, if the press had speculated that broadly and in such an out-of-control manner about me and my family, I might be a little peeved as well.

I would tend to agree with her that until the media is willing to treat her as a serious political candidate rather than a tabloid freak show, she's better off just leaving them in the dark.
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I'd like to know what is meant by 'deference and respect,' but I'm guessing that it has a bit to do with the tabloidesque coverage of her teenage daughter and the Huffington Post speculation the week prior to that as to whether Trigger was her daughter's baby and it was all a cover up.

I guess, if the press had speculated that broadly and in such an out-of-control manner about me and my family, I might be a little peeved as well.

I would tend to agree with her that until the media is willing to treat her as a serious political candidate rather than a tabloid freak show, she's better off just leaving them in the dark.
Hate to disagree with you there...But if she were a simple celebrity...Sure. Keep them in the dark. But she's running for the Vice Presidency. She doesn't get that luxury. Obama, Biden, and McCain take their beatings in the public square both for what they do as well as what their families do. Palin should as well.
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I lean Republican and I generally think the Palin pick was a strategic home run, but I do think that Edmond Outsider makes some good points. In a grown-up world she has to live up to the same scrutiny as everyone else, more so since she is so new.

I wonder if the McCain campaign is holding off letting her do media interviews so that they can keep the story going. Let the media stew for a week or so and then when she finally does an interview she hopefully hits it out of the park. Kind of like let the world speculate about her for a few days before the convention speech, guaranteeing huge ratings when she does come on. Every day spent talking about Palin is a day spent not talking about Obama. But I hope they are not being too clever by half.
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Oh yeah, I thought you weren't speaking to me dubya? Is all forgiven now? I guess not since the best you can still come up with is name calling.

Let's not debate the substance, lets just say "liberal, liberal, liberal, typical liberal, limbaugh lib, lib, libby libby libby on the label, liberal, liberal, liberal.

Anything less than ass kissing worship of queen van palin is so hurtfull to you tender hearted, thin skinned...whatever you call yourselves, you must resort to emotional responses like name calling. Only, you can only figure out one name to call...imaginative, you're not.
Not sure who you are speaking of but I love you like a bro. You leave me dizzy most of the time but I love you just the same. What's with this dubya bit? If that's name calling that is below your standards. I would expect better of you.
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I suppose I may have mistaken GWB to stand for the politician he seems to adore.

Maybe it stands for Giant White Butt? Gigantic WOnder Bra? Good Willy's Beard?

As far as RR, kisses.
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I suppose I may have mistaken GWB to stand for the politician he seems to adore.

Maybe it stands for Giant White Butt? Gigantic WOnder Bra? Good Willy's Beard?

As far as RR, kisses.
NOW NOW....thats name calling. Below your standards.
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Hate to disagree with you there...But if she were a simple celebrity...Sure. Keep them in the dark. But she's running for the Vice Presidency. She doesn't get that luxury. Obama, Biden, and McCain take their beatings in the public square both for what they do as well as what their families do. Palin should as well.
She's running for office. Any "luxury" she wants to avail herself is her own choice. It is her loss if the strategy backfires though.

I guess this is a calculated risk which the McCain campaign has chosen to make. I can't say I blame them. If all the media wants to talk about is a prego teenager and a boyfriend who "doesn't want kids" on his freakin' MySpace page, then McCain loses the election.

The media being what it is won't want to talk about anything else until they've been swatted on the nose with the proverbial newspaper enough times to get the point across. Even Obama has said that these things should be off limits and until the press is ready to respect that, I really have no issue with her refusing to stoop to their level.

It's not a question of just her being possibly 'hurt' by this in the polls. It's a question of which hurts worse -- tabloid speculation throughout the campaign or a temporary media blackout intended to send a certain message? It's still fairly early, so what we're seeing is a lot of issue framing and candidate molding, the results of which, we'll only start to see in October.
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Ah, the old "blame the liberal media" tactic. McCain chose somebody that no one outside of Alaska has ever heard of, somebody with the thinnest of resumes, somebody with no papers or speeches about international issues, and the media isn't supposed to ask questions? How the hell are we supposed to know what this woman thinks about things? Is she so fragile (or clueless) that she can't stand up to the media? Are we supposed to believe she can handle Russia, China, and Iran, but not the American press? Doesn't sound like a barracuda to me, sounds like wilting flower. All she did in her speech at the convention was mock and belittle the Democrats, when she should have taken the opportunity to tell us what she believes in, how she views the world, and what she would do in office. Behind all their macho swaggering, flag-waving, and tough talk, the Republicans are bunch of pussies.
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She's running for office. Any "luxury" she wants to avail herself is her own choice. It is her loss if the strategy backfires though.

I guess this is a calculated risk which the McCain campaign has chosen to make. I can't say I blame them. If all the media wants to talk about is a prego teenager and a boyfriend who "doesn't want kids" on his freakin' MySpace page, then McCain loses the election.

The media being what it is won't want to talk about anything else until they've been swatted on the nose with the proverbial newspaper enough times to get the point across. Even Obama has said that these things should be off limits and until the press is ready to expect that, I really have no issue with her refusing to stoop to their level.

It's not a question of just her being possibly 'hurt' by this in the polls. It's a question of which hurts worse -- tabloid speculation throughout the campaign or a temporary media blackout intended to send a certain message? It's still fairly early, so what we're seeing is a lot of issue framing and candidate molding, the results of which, we'll only start to see in October.
Fair enough.

Personally...I think they're keeping her in the dark and giving her a crash course in foreign policy and other hot-button topics. Not because of the tabloid questions.
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Old 09-07-2008, 06:43 PM
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Ah, the old "blame the liberal media" tactic.
Uh, no.

Blame the tabloid media.

As far as the media being liberal, it's a perfectly valid and documentable argument, but not one I'd even have to roll out in this case. Please see "A Measure of Media Bias," a paper by Tim Groseclose (Department of Political Science, University of California at Los Angeles) and Jeffrey Milyo (Department of Economics and Truman school of Public Affairs, University of Missouri). Here's the abstract to save you some time:

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We measure media bias by estimating ideological scores for several major media outlets. To compute this, we count the times that a particular media outlet cites various think tanks and policy groups, and then compare this with the times that members of Congress cite the same groups. Our results show a strong liberal bias: all of the news outlets we examine, except Fox News' Special Report and the Washington Times, received scores to the left of the average member of Congress. Consistent with claims made by conservative critics, CBS Evening News and the New York Times received scores far to the left of center. The most centrist media outlets were PBS News Hour, CNN's Newsnight, and ABC's Good Morning America; among print outlets, USA Today was closest to the center. All of our findings refer strictly to news content; that is, we exclude editorials, letters, and the like. Copyright (c) 2005 Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
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Hate to disagree with you there...But if she were a simple celebrity...Sure. Keep them in the dark. But she's running for the Vice Presidency. She doesn't get that luxury. Obama, Biden, and McCain take their beatings in the public square both for what they do as well as what their families do. Palin should as well.
She's taken a pretty good beating from Lame Stream Media (LSM) already. Regardless, she will be out there doing interviews soon enough, but they are going to do it on their terms, not yours. Furthermore, regardless how many interviews she does, it ain't gonna change your mind, so what you crying about?
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So because she is a woman she can't answer the phone at 3?
Is she going to be allowed to pick up the phone?

The family issues...yeah, media needs to let that go. Parents f-up from time to time and kids will do what they want. No one is perfect.

However, there is SERIOUS concerns and issues that she needs to address and put to rest now, that we need to know when it comes to her politics and policies. I may not vote for McCain, but if she does become VP...then for the good of the country, I want to know exactly what is going on in that soccer mom's head.
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Ah, the old "blame the liberal media" tactic. McCain chose somebody that no one outside of Alaska has ever heard of, somebody with the thinnest of resumes, somebody with no papers or speeches about international issues, and the media isn't supposed to ask questions? How the hell are we supposed to know what this woman thinks about things? Is she so fragile (or clueless) that she can't stand up to the media? Are we supposed to believe she can handle Russia, China, and Iran, but not the American press? Doesn't sound like a barracuda to me, sounds like wilting flower. All she did in her speech at the convention was mock and belittle the Democrats, when she should have taken the opportunity to tell us what she believes in, how she views the world, and what she would do in office. Behind all their macho swaggering, flag-waving, and tough talk, the Republicans are bunch of pussies.
LOL! You liberals are something else. So, if Palin comes out and and tells the media what she believes, are you saying you're open to voting for her? I didn't think so. The media has already told us a lot about her without even sitting down to do one interview with her. If she never did an interview, you would still know everything there is to know about her--it's all in her record of serving in the government for nearly twenty years in Alaska. You're just ticked off because she isn't gonna bow down and do it your way, get used to it. In fact, get used to the idea of her being president, because after she serves eight years as vice president, she will probably become the first female president in the US--and a republican at that. Now go back to what you do best; cry, curse, mock and belittle people who love America (flag waivers).
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Is she going to be allowed to pick up the phone?

The family issues...yeah, media needs to let that go. Parents f-up from time to time and kids will do what they want. No one is perfect.

However, there is SERIOUS concerns and issues that she needs to address and put to rest now, that we need to know when it comes to her politics and policies. I may not vote for McCain, but if she does become VP...then for the good of the country, I want to know exactly what is going on in that soccer mom's head.
Don't disagree. I want to know that they make good judgments too. Like do you rely on your spiritual leader to make your decisions. Do you make wrong decisions at a critical time based on which way the wind is blowing. Are you able to decide when life begins and not say "it's above my pay grade".
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