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Had a situation come up awhile back. My nephew went in Wal-Mart and accidently ran into a black kid in the toy section. The kid's mom raced over, and told her kid to get away, that he was too close to the "white" boy. She reminded the boy that he wasn't to associate with white people. What are your thoughts about this?
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I'll be the one to ask what needs to be asked: Is it only okay for black parents to promote cultural stereotypes and racial bias/hatred? If white parents had said the same types of things, would we not all think a lot less of them?
Racism is a word I'd say should be left out of any discussion of this as it carries a lot of meaning that we need not discuss here. Lots of things about 'white privilege' and the notion that a group that does not hold 'the power' cannot be racist (two concepts that have been/are being extensively discussed in the academic world) -- both are fine tangents that can be discussed elsewhere.
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It is her right, but in so doing, she is setting her kids on a path to failure. If you can't work with people be they white, black, or anything else, you'll find your opportunities in life to be significantly diminished.
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Every race can develop stereotype's about different people.
A good pastor friend of mine said "Everyone judges situations by our past experiences." Rev. Danny Brown Not only that but people develop comfort zones, and comfort levels based on a lot of the same things. If you're more comfortable wearing jeans and a t-shirt, than a full suit, then given the free choice of what to wear everyday what would you wear? That doesn't say it's wrong to never dress up, or for the person who prefers the powersuit, and tie, it's okay to put on jeans and a t-shirt. Often times the unknown makes people move closer to their comfort zones. If you grow up in an all Caucasion home, initially you'd probably be most comfortable with someone you associate white, at least until you're able to find things to associate as well in others. This unknown could be fear, not so much of danger, but just that initial unsettling uncomfortableness in all of us. Like the first time you touch a bird, or your first day of school, or a new job. Parents are highly influenced by the past, and knowingly or unknowingly constantly passing that influence to their children. I believe parents should definatly be more cautious at what we are passing to our children. I don't want my daughter to judge people passed on my parents hurts, but on her own experiences. |
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That's a pretty bold, blanket statement you are making there Jack. I work with MANY african-americans and I know many that do not teach their children any such thing. One group of people should not be classified as racists simply due to one example.
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--Got it. I don't think anyone was advocating making a scene and telling this mother how stupid she was. What's going on here is that we're all agreeing (or maybe not all) that this mother was clearly in the wrong here in the way she's raising her kids. A child who grows up being told that they are oppressed and cannot amount to anything is going to find that to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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#2. I found it interesting that when referring to the next Klan rally, (actually, I can't remember when the last one was, but I'm certain that you can tell me) that you referred to the people that I had suggested to treat with respect as "THEM"...could there be a little racism reeking from you that might have prompted the mother to react the way that she did? I don't mean to be inflaming, but there is always room to look a little deeper inside all of us. I welcome your constructive reply. |
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I think it might be unwise to inform the mother of that child that she was racist in this situation ... that would not be a scene I would want to be a part ..
I have images of Jerry Springer I do think it's important in many instances.. off the subject, I've almost been beat up a few times when I've intervened in what I perceived as child abuse situations ( like a mom slapping her toddler in the face) ... but it was worth it and I'd do it again.
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I started making my post before you had made that reply lol. I got involved with something else for a few minutes before I posted and missed yours :P.
I still get that feeling, though...not necessarily from you, but from people in general. I'm so used to being around different cultures, but there are times I feel like I must be back in 1955 the way people act! |
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In his book, THE NEGRO AND WORLD CRISIS, Charles Lee says that the Negro
people migrated into Egypt and Ethiopia, of which both countries had White civilizations at an early date. But having had contact with White civilizations over the centuries did not inspire the Negroes to build a civilization of their own. Despite all the contacts and exchanges of knowledge, the Negroes remained satisfied with his savage state of ruthlessness, uninfluenced and unchanged throughout centuries of contact with White civilizations. Furthermore the author continues, Thomas Dixon wrote that Black Africans have held one fourth of the globe for thousands of years, yet they have never taken one step towards progress. Where are the monuments in Africa that attest to Negroes? capability of building a civilization? Where are the churches, the schools, the hospitals that they have built? Where is his written language? Dr. Wesley George wrote: ?Throughout all recorded time in history, the Negroes never invented the wheel, the plough or a system of writing. They have never produced a great religion or philosopher. They have remained savages throughout the ages during which the White race were the builders of the civilization in which the Negro lives. Not only have Negroes proven themselves incapable of building his own civilization, but they have also proven themselves incapable of even borrowing one from the White race... Wait, before this incites a riot, this was part of a thesis written by a black man. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...cgi?read=85427 Check it out, I would/could not make this up. |
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GM -- you're not trying to make a eugenics argument I hope.
Africa's problems are rooted in cultural development through tribalism versus other regions election of the feudal system/empire system very early on. The larger the government -- the quicker the progress. I think it has more to do with topography and climate than race.
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