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Old 09-25-2007, 04:15 PM
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All that poll does is justify to Gundy that screaming, shouting, yelling and throwing a temper tantrum is appropriate and acceptable.

Honestly, that's not how I picture Oklahomans at all!

I'm always so impressed with their manners, chilvary, respect for women (and others).

In the years I've lived here, I've been amazed at how nice Oklahomans are. Always opening doors, letting me go in traffic, please, thank you, yes ma'am. Polite, respectful people.

This guy is a complete opposite of how I expect Oklahomans to react to situations, especially to a woman.

He was a bully, deserved or not, no one should be treated like that.

He was out of control.. and I'm so surprised that those taking the poll are putting their love of college football over common courtesy and respect for others.

I would like to ask all those who voted - What if that was someone you loved or knew ie a spouse or child, your wife? Would you want them to be screamed at like that?
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It's great he defends "his" athlete however he could could have set the better example and executed the defense in a more acceptable manner. With performances like this and we wonder why some players go on to more questionable behavior? Kindergarten children do this on the playground, not adults.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:20 PM
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The poll on foxsports.com is 95-5% in favor of Gundy.

I can't believe that.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:27 PM
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This story appears on ESPN.com's front page. The article below appears in the site's "The Dash" feature by Pat Forde:

ESPN - Forde: Dashing through September - Columnist


Coaches Losing It

Congratulations to Oklahoma State's Mike Gundy (16), who showed he can be Bob Knight without the titles after his tantrum in response to a column by the Oklahoman's Jenni Carlson. In the Saturday paper, she questioned the toughness of quarterback Bobby Reid, who'd been benched by Gundy the previous week. Gundy responded by losing his mind after one of the few big victories in his 28-game career as a head coach, a shootout upset of Texas Tech.

On Monday, a completely unapologetic Gundy said it was "unfortunate" that his 3-minute, 20-second tirade took away from his team's victory. Of course, that was his fault, since he deemed trashing a reporter more important than acknowledging the Cowboys' performance.

Coaches have the right to take issue with journalists, and to do it in public. That's part of the job for a columnist to take what he/she dishes out. But this was such a shrill overreaction that the message was lost amid the screaming.

One of Gundy's big complaints was negative treatment of a "kid" who is not being paid to play the game. But coaches never object to the tens of thousands of fans fawning over that kid, the tutors arranged to help him maintain minimum eligibility standards, the training table meals he eats, the tricked-up locker room he changes in -- or the positive press most players receive most of the time. Hero worship is expected and encouraged; criticism is child abuse. It's quite the double standard.

(For the record, Reid is 21 years old. He was old enough to vote in the 2004 presidential election or to die in Iraq. But few people are afforded the means to grow up more slowly than major-college athletes.)

"Come after me!" Gundy bellowed directly at Carlson. "I'm a man! I'm 40!"

OK, if you insist. The Dash will go after Gundy.

The great orator said that the column in question was shown to him, "by a mother. A mother of children."

As opposed to a mother of walruses, presumably.

Gundy went on to say that 75 percent of the column was fabricated. He took issue with two points in the column. So maybe math isn't his specialty.

Anyway, The Dash hopes Gundy felt like a big man when it was over. Next time an ounce of professional decorum would be appreciated. Until then, try to worry more about improving that 13-15 career record that includes seven victories over Sun Belt and I-AA opposition.

(By the way: Gundy says he doesn't read the newspapers. It's The Dash's experience that the majority of coaches who say they don't read the newspapers are lying.)
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:30 PM
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that's why I will take reading recognized sportswriters' opinions over worthless polls any day. Great points regarding the fawning over athletes - gotta take the bad with the good.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:10 PM
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What makes this all the more surprising to me is how even-keeled Coach Gundy is on the field. He rarely displays any kind of emotion at all. I remember watching his reaction after the last play of the game and thinking he showed no emotion at all. You really could not have told from his face that his team just won a very exciting game. It was the same reaction he had after his team lost the previous game. Now he is being portrayed as a Bobby Knight type in the national media which I don't think is his MO from what I have seen. I don't defend his bashing of Jenni Carlson, he did go way too far in his rant and could have been handled privately and more professionally.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:37 PM
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Nothing surprises me about Gundy. He was a pompous ass when I knew him in college and not much has changed since.
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:44 PM
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It's surprising all the horrible comments on OKNews about women and women writers.

She supposedly wrote an article filled with inaccuracies and he screamed his head off ...


Two wrongs make a right I suppose.

What is interesting is that many Oklahomans' are supporting the coach but nationally, not so much.
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:56 PM
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He stood up for a player because he thought the player was being attacked on a personal level. Big deal. Poll his players. See what they think.
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Old 09-25-2007, 09:24 PM
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Honestly, i don't think he would have reacted quite like this had he not just replaced Reid as quarterback. I bet he felt like he let the kid down even if he was being lazy. This article just came at the absolute worst time for Reid, and Gundy was not only defending him of the article itself, but also trying to show Reid he still gave a damn about him. Be it right or wrong, the man just had a tantrum.
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:13 PM
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Old 09-25-2007, 10:56 PM
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The only reason these sportswriters are on her side is because a coach went after one of their own.

Reporters stick together regardless if they are right or wrong just like people from every other profession.

When Gundy screamed at her it set off the alarm to engage the brother/sister rule. I can pick on my little brother/sister all day everyday because they are my sibling; however, if I catch you doing it watch out. I am going to come after you because you have no right.

If every sportswriter supported Gundy, you can guarantee every coach from coast to coast would have been firing back at the media over a story they did not like.

Overall I think it is sad to see our love a good football game has been overshadowed for our love of seeing people fail and rubbing their nose in it.

The next time you read, listen or view dirt on someone else ask your self this question. How would I feel if this was about me, my family, my employer, my organization or team? It seems like everything we read these days is designed to takes someone down a peg. It’s one thing to do that to someone who is clearly out there harming others for personal gain. It is another when it’s just another Joe or Jane just trying to get by the best way they know how.

I keep my asking myself, why does everyone like it when OSU fails? OU is the winner not OSU. Why can’t all state teams succeed and be winners? Would it not be great to have two or three successful teams in this state? I think most people are afraid to be associated with failure in this state. It is just like in real life, when you’re a success everyone wants be near you and claim to know you. When you fail nobody wants to be near you. I think in life you have to have a nice mixture of both to live a full live. A life without a moderate amount of failures is a life unlived. How can you can fully appreciate a win without knowing what is like to fail, recover and win.
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It's surprising all the horrible comments on OKNews about women and women writers.

She supposedly wrote an article filled with inaccuracies and he screamed his head off ...


Two wrongs make a right I suppose.

What is interesting is that many Oklahomans' are supporting the coach but nationally, not so much.
Yes, so now that "chivalry" thinly veiled as sexism finally comes out. I posted a few times on the NewsOK site, but was in the obvious "anti" Gundy minority.
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Old 09-26-2007, 12:27 AM
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Nothing surprises me about Gundy. He was a pompous ass when I knew him in college and not much has changed since.
I had several classes at OU with Cale and got that same impression.
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Now for some humor . . . check out this website - it's pretty darn funny!

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Old 09-26-2007, 09:05 AM
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BOB-FM has put together "The Gundy Blues"
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:23 AM
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Here's something from The Sports Animal. Pretty funny stuff!

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Old 09-28-2007, 07:17 PM
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I heard on the radio today that the mom is planning on suing the Daily Oklahoman.

I haven't heard anything else about it though.
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I heard on the radio today that the mom is planning on suing the Daily Oklahoman.
She's just proving Jenni Carlson right... He is a momma's boy.
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