That was harsh.

But, still, I think the coach threw a bit of a tatrum that wasn't all that attractive... a little overboard in my opinion.

But like he said, She doesn't have kids. I would probably react the same way as a mother if someone insulted my kids.

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If Gundy and the OSU Cowboys want to be considered a big time football program , Gundy will need to get thicker skin.

There are inaccurate articles written all of the time when it comes to OU, Texas, LSU and other football programs and as well as the players.

I think Gundy needs to grow up as a coach and realize if you are going to be a top program that the media will come after you more and more.

He can't just go off on media columnists each and every time that he doesn't like what is written, he won't last long if he does.

BTW, I don't agree with Carlson , but Gundy can't let the media get to him if he ever want to be a top program.

SOOOOO much mileage out of that unfortunate scream.

Click here. (watch your volume).

I think he was completely, utterly unprofessional, right or not about Carlson's "lack of facts".


He's the one being childish. It's called an editorial for a reason.

Can someone photoshop Gundy's head (especially the hair) onto this photo? That would be priceless!!!

Thank you to Karried who posted the article "in place". That's the first time I've read it, now things are a lot more clear. I actually think it was a pretty cool article.

I would have liked to have had more of a description about his Mother feeding him chicken. If that's the case, it says a lot. Guys: Never let your Mother feed you in public!

After reading the article, I think Gundy went a little over the top. I would like to have seen how Stoops would have handled it.

Stoops knows better.

He would have yelled like that in his office to his assistants, but not in public, much less in front of cameras.

You do know that Stoops is behind Gundy on this don't you? Last night, channel 9 blitz said he was.

Gundy: I wish I would have said more

By John Helsley
Staff Writer
Mike Gundy offered no regrets Monday for his Saturday night outburst, other than to say he wishes he would have taken it further. Gundy, defiant at times during the weekly Big 12 coaches teleconference, fielded several questions from reporters concerning his postgame response to a Saturday column by The Oklahoman's Jenni Carlson detailing the reasons quarterback Bobby Reid may have lost his job.

"Wish I would have said more,” Gundy said. "Tired of certain people downgrading college athletes who are good people. If you want to comment on his play, comment on his play.


"But don't comment on something that's outside of his play that is downgrading or belittling to a young man who is trying to do things right and he has to get splashed all over the newspaper in the state of Oklahoma. And on a game day.”

Most of the 10-minute question-and-answer session with Gundy focused on his postgame press conference, not his team or upcoming games or Saturday's wild 49-45 win over Texas Tech. Questions came both regionally and nationally, with the back-and-forth often strained.

ESPN's Joe Schad asked Gundy to expand on his stance that college athletes should be spared criticism.

"Did you see the press conference,” Gundy said, before Schad repeated his question. "I'm asking if you saw the press conference?”

Schad: "Yes.”

Gundy: "That pretty much answered that question, didn't it?”

Asked if his postgame rant, which included no talk of the game, might have overshadowed what his players accomplished in such an important win, Gundy stood by his actions.

"I hate that for the players,” he said, "but it's more important that a young man having a difficult time, going through a change where he's been moved to second team and another player's been moved to first team, and then for a person to take a cheap shot at him and belittle him in the public eye… I thought it was more important that somebody take up for the player who couldn't stand up for himself.”

Gundy said he's received considerable support from other coaches in the form of phone calls and e-mails.

"I've been bombed with them,” Gundy said. "I don't read them, because I don't read e-mail and all that. I just know the secretaries keep coming in and saying the phone won't stop ringing, the e-mails are coming from the support.
"That's not why I did it. I didn't know it was going to have this kind of affect. I did it because I thought it was the right thing to do, because of the way it was handled with one of our players.”

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She to me is WAAAAAAAAY out of line. She took some cheap shots on several different subject matters IMO.

He is still an "amateur" athlete and should not be berated and belittled the way he was in that column.

It look like to me she printed team gossip. Any good sports writer knows that you do not write about team gossip unless you have evidence and witnesses to back up the gossip.

Maybe someone should follow her around and write a insulting story on her. Everyone has dirt, all you have to do is be paitent and they will reveal it to you.

Article from CBS Sportsline's Dennis Dodd....Youch

Mike Gundy needs to be reprimanded, definitely suspended, probably fined and maybe fired.

If you missed the Oklahoma State coach's outburst Saturday, you missed the mother of all meltdowns. At least the mother of all meltdowns over something as common as a columnist's opinion.


Mike Gundy has a 13-15 record since taking over at Oklahoma State in 2005. (US Presswire)

Coaches usually reserve their tirades for more important things like fumbles, arrests or their own marital problems. Even then, most coaches have the decency to do their yelling behind closed doors.

Okie State's third-year coach verbally attacked a woman, a journalist and degraded his profession after Saturday's win over Texas Tech. Jenni Carlson, a columnist for the Daily Oklahoman, wrote a fair and balanced column Saturday regarding quarterback Bobby Reid. Typical of his coaching style, Gundy had replaced Reid as starter before the Sept. 13 game against Troy without explanation. As is her job in that situation, Carlson tried to explain why Reid lost his job in her column.

Try reading it and then tell me what is unfair, or personal. First, you have to understand that this is not the first time Gundy has overreacted. As immediate past president of the Football Writers Association of the America, I wrote him last year regarding media access. There pretty much wasn't any at a program that still fails to realize it lives in a huge shadow in its own state (ever hear of Oklahoma?) and is an afterthought in the national conversation. So for Gundy to attack Carlson for not knowing what's going on, well, that's Hypocrisy 101. Like a lot of his colleagues, Gundy wants it both ways. He wants his super-secret, sacrosanct program to be accountable to no one.

And then he whines when someone dares pull the curtain back to take a peek.

So far, though, the approach has worked for him and his enablers in Stillwater. For everyone else, Gundy is a 13-15 coach at a program that no one outside his clandestine world cares about.

He hides his players -- whose scholarships are paid for by tax dollars and contributions -- and then criticizes when journalists try to do their jobs.

In a way, this is an indictment of readers and fans in Oklahoma. They should demand more of a coach whose credibility so far has ended at the football field where he was a successful quarterback for the Cowboys. Certainly he has less than the man he replaced, Les Miles.

The players are public figures, Mike, just like you are. You, though, are more public than most. You are the benefactor of a $165 million gift from Okie State sugar daddy T. Boone Pickens. Oklahoma State is getting great facilities but not the wins that are expected to follow them.

Or maybe that's the media's fault.

Gundy needs to be penalized, because the Big 12 office should not let this pass. The league was still gathering information Sunday. The column and outburst were quickly passed along to commissioner Dan Beebe.

No matter what the outcome, the coach shamed the league and his profession.

On the surface, Gundy's screamfest resembled an amateur Bobby Knight. The Dark Knight typically saves his worst vitriol after victories to give them more credibility. Former commissioner Kevin Weiberg handled Knight as if the coach was his superior, rather than Knight being accountable for his actions.

This time there is a new commissioner who, judging by his demeanor, isn't going to let something like this stain the Big 12's name. Beebe is a 50-year-old former athlete and experienced commissioner with a law degree. He knows crap when he sees it. Especially since, at last check, Gundy has a few less national championships than Knight to back him up.

But the Big 12 bylaws don't cover this kind of conduct, which kind of explains Knight and Gundy. It's up to the schools, which means the enablers continue to rule.

This is what is never going to change, Mike: We're going to write our opinions because this is America. Free press and all that. You might not agree, but when you don't, for your career's sake, keep it to yourself.

For the rest of the season, maybe that entire career, this is going to be an issue with you. The hot-head coach who can't take fair criticism.

Maybe recruits will love it. And maybe their parents will want them to be in a program where the coach is more level-headed.

We have the pen, always, Mike. You have a job, for now.

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From the OU HUB:

The HUB - Articles

OKLAHOMA CITY – Jenni Carlson stood near her car Sunday night, crying, using her cell phone, eating some chocolate cake.

It would’ve been a normal post-writing activity for the Professional Sports Journalist, had it not been for one thing.

Her mother was feeding her cake.

Which brings us to ****ty journalism in Oklahoma.

Don’t see the connection?

Let me explain. The Oklahoman’s owners and editors have gone full-speed ahead with “The Tom Bomb,” opting to let freshman writer Tom Edwards sit at the editor’s desk in the office a week ago, and then continuing to let him sit there this week, even after an embarrassing headline-bust where Edwards confused Iranians with Jews.

Weren’t we being told just last week that Carlson was still “the guy” (but most likely “the woman”?) But all the weight with which The Oklahoman editors were backing Carlson has totally shifted to Edwards.

The change seems sudden.

Thing is, it may not be as abrupt as it looks. If you believe the rumors and the rumblings, Carlson has been pushing owners and editors that way for quite some time.

Tile up the back stories told on the sly over the past few years, and you see a pattern of horrifically written sports articles and bad attitude.

“She drank the entire pot of coffee, then didn’t make another,” said one co-worker. “And she has a specific coffee mug for each day of the week. Are you kidding me?”

Other employees also went on the attack.

“Tell me where my burger went that was in the fridge?” said an anonymous writer. “I’ll tell you where, into Carlson’s stupid face, that’s where. Can she even read? My name was clearly written on the Styrofoam box.”

Word is that Carlson has considered transferring to other papers a couple of times, the first as early as 2005. Carlson, then a less terrible writer, was facing competition from a returning sports writer who was actually good at his job, and, apparently, Carlson considered leaving The Oklahoman just because she had to make an effort with writing.

Carlson’s nerves have also been an issue. Earlier this year, she told a fellow writer about her emotions while writing articles.

“I get sweaty palms. I get the butterflies in my stomach. I get really gassy and bloated,” she told her bosses and the office physician. “I’ve been writing for nearly 20 years, and I can honestly say every article I’ve written, I’ve been really gassy and farty and hungry. It’s not so much that I am nervous about writing; I just get to a point where I can’t control my bowels. Most articles I’ve written have been from a toilet.”

A lot of writers get nervous, some even start over when they’re done. How you handle your nerves is important, though, and Carlson hasn’t always managed them well (as in lots of skid marks.) She has chosen some extremely poor sports topics, putting the paper in some holes. Some, they dug out of, with Carlson never wielding the biggest shovel, and some, they couldn’t.

Then, there have been the extremely terrible topics. No doubt some of Carlson’s ailments have been severe, including a lack of knowledge on how to write something well, or the her lack of general gumption. But, she keeps producing content, hoping to get better, which is cute at most.

Even though the editor of The Oklahoman said last week that Edwards got the big desk because he had a better week of articles, insiders say that the editors decided to move Carlson back early in the week. The bottom line: The switch is less about Edwards’ OK week and more about Carlson’s poor excuse for journalism.

“The editors made a decision,” Carlson said. “I just have to go with it, work on my basic English and get back in that desk.”

There’s something to be said for not being malcontent, but you can almost see Carlson shrugging her shoulders, as she says those words. Does she have the fire in her belly?

Or does she literally want to go to the pound, adopt a dog, train it to **** on typing paper and turn it in as news?

Or perhaps she’s just like to be fed cake.

I just saw his rant on ESPN and all I can say is WOW...

I did read Jenni Carlson's article it is very nitpicky and she does take some pot shots at Reid. So his mom makes him chicken? Big deal. Then again she writes for the Oklahoman. That thing has been pumping out journalistic turds for for decades. But ya know, if you don't like it, DON'T READ IT! That's why I read the Journal Record. I've never seen a public official who's been at the wrong side of the DOK engage in such a brutal, public undressing of a single individual affiliated with it. For Gumby to do so to a FEMALE reporter while cameras are rolling was of low class and character. Whatever happen to the saying "two wrongs don't make a right?" Was it too much of him to be the bigger person? I'm sure its been forgotten by all the Poke fans who are rallying around him like he's their messiah. They conviently forget that OSU's defense got 600+ yards racked up against them and had it not been for a dropped catched by a Tech player in the endzone it would be the beginnings of a long autum for Poke fans. I guess with his rant plastered all over the internet he doesn't have to be held accountable for these things. How convenient...

Ya know, I have always cheered for OSU and all the other state teams (when they aren't playing OU of course), but it is getting harder and harder for me to support anything OSU does anymore. Between this, the arrogance this summer about "the world's greatest offense," and their personal sleazball T Boone Pickens and his crazy idea that a good football team can be bought, I see OSU in an increasingly negative light. And I'm not the only one. You should read how the national press has ripped OSU for their shellacking by UGA and Troy and now this. If OSU ever want to be "big league" its moronic coach needs to get thicker skin and focus on FOOTBALL instead of blowing up like a volcano when a reported from an amateur paper writes an article dogging one of his players. I don't expect attitudes to change up in Stillwater, and I'll be shocked if OSU goes 6-6 or better this year...

I wonder how Bobby Reid feels about this?

The thing that kills me is how unprofessionally Gundy handled the follow-up press conference today. Carlson was there and said something like "as a professional journalist, I'm obligated to write facts, and you said that most of my column was false, so I'd like to know what was false."

Gundy responded like a whiney fourth-grader and basically ignored her question, saying that he "didn't really want to talk about it--didn't have to". He even admitted that he hadn't even thought of talking to her in private about it when asked about it later in the press conference. He is making a mockery of his leadership position, his team, and the university he represents with such stubborn responses.

Coach Gundy has a right to challenge the media in a professional manner. There are very few coaches in college sport that have a particularly amicable demeanor when dealing with the media in press conferences. However, the one thing most of those coaches realize is that there is a professional standard that must be upheld. Mike Gundy, on the other hand, is a self-proclaimed shooter-from-the-hip, and therefore can be considered nothing more than a classless bully.

I feel so embarrassed.. I don't know why but now it's national.. and I just feel ashamed of this guy's lack of control and unprofessional behavior. There's just no excuse for that type of meltdown..in front of everyone, in front of cameras?

And now, he won't even answer the question as to what was inaccurate.

I don't see how anyone can support that kind of screaming maniacal outburst.

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Thanks........ I laughed so hard my stomach is starting to hurt.

Sorry, Karrie, but, for me, it's no problemo!

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I'm no Gundy fan, but that earned him some serious respect in my book.

If you didn't know, Gundy is a man, he is 40.

Sorta reminded me of Al Pachino's speech at the end of Scent of a Woman ... not as well scripted, of course, and I don't suppose that Gundy is much of a tango dancer ...

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And here in the Chicago Sun Times:

Was Gundy mad at a columnist or a woman? You make the call
Coach's tirade makes an issue of gender

September 25, 2007
BY CAROL SLEZAK Sun-Times Columnist
I don't know Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy or Daily Oklahoman columnist Jenni Carlson. But after watching Gundy's rant on YouTube and reading the Carlson column that inspired his rage, I think they've combined to give us a couple things to think about.
No. 1: Should the media treat Division I college players like pros?

No. 2: Would Gundy have berated a male writer the way he berated Carlson?

In case you haven't watched the video yet, Gundy went off after his team's 49-45 victory over Texas Tech on Saturday. His anger stemmed from a Carlson column in which she suggested that OSU junior quarterback Bobby Reid had been demoted not because he lacked talent, but because he lacked heart and guts. Those weren't Carlson's exact words, but that was the gist of her piece.

''Three-fourths of this is inaccurate,'' Gundy yelled, holding up Carlson's column. ''It's fiction. And this article embarrasses me to be involved in athletics.''

Gundy, 40, berated the media, asking ''Where are we at in society today?'' That's a point worth discussing. But few are talking about that now, because Gundy got personal, directing most of his long tirade at Carlson.


Making it personal
''This article had to have been written by a person that doesn't have a child,'' Gundy yelled at her. ''... If you have a child someday, you'll understand how it feels but you obviously don't have a child. I do. If your child goes down the street and somebody makes fun of him because he drops a pass in a pickup game or says he's fat and he comes home crying to his mommy, you'll understand.''
Like I said, I don't know Gundy. But his reaction seemed motivated by something deeper than Carlson's story. Watch the video yourself, and see what you think. I remember being called out during a press conference by a college basketball coach who was angry about something I had written. But that coach didn't go berserk. He was sarcastic, he made his point, and he moved on. Gundy couldn't do that.

I can't imagine Gundy going off on a man the way he did on Carlson. I wonder how he even knew whether Carlson has kids. Was he asking people about her personal life? Did the topic come up during a previous press conference?

Carlson: Coach Gundy, why'd you decide to go for it on fourth-and-two?

Gundy: Are you childless?

I can't imagine Gundy screaming during a press conference about a male writer's lack of offspring. I can't imagine him substituting ''daddy'' for ''mommy'' in his rant. I also wonder, as one of the few -- or perhaps only -- women in that room, if Carlson didn't make for an easy target in Gundy's mind. Watching the video, I sensed a subcurrent that gave me an uneasy feeling. As if what Gundy was really thinking was, ''How dare that bitch criticize one of my players. She shouldn't be writing about football. She should be home making babies.' ''


How tough is too tough?
Make no mistake, Carlson was tough on Reid. For instance, to illustrate her belief that he's a coddled player, she wrote about seeing Reid's mom feed him chicken out of a boxed meal as he stood near the team's chartered buses after a recent loss. She also inferred that he wouldn't play through minor injuries, and indicated that he has an unusually acute case of game-day nerves. That's a lot to pile on a college kid.
Or is it? I've read many harsher pieces about college athletes. Division I athletes may not technically be professionals, but they're part of a pro-style product that the colleges themselves created. They are given free tuition and room and board. They're typically subjected to less rigorous academic standards than their peers. Many are considered celebrities on campus and in their communities. (Certainly most quarterbacks are.) Isn't it to be expected that intensified scrutiny will follow? Reid knew what he was getting into when he decided to play in the Big 12. He's 21 years old, no longer a kid. And when a Big 12 quarterback loses his job, it's news. Everyone is going to speculate as to the reasons why. Maybe Carlson hit too close to home?

Gundy has been roundly criticized by the press, in part because media members usually stand up for each other, and in part because he appeared unprofessional (and a bit demented) during his rant. When they're not on the sidelines throwing clipboards, we expect college coaches to comport themselves in a distinguished manner. Many have objected to the fact that by choosing to go off on Carlson, Gundy was taking away from his team's win. Gundy acknowledged that point during Monday's weekly Big 12 coaches teleconference, but didn't apologize for Saturday's rant.

''I wish I would've said more,'' he said.

And I wish he had said less, and said it differently.


Gosh, so do I, for Oklahoma's sake . . .

I think they had a secret plan to do this in cahoots to get some much needed publicity. I can just see them giggling in his office, feeding each other and plotting......

I find it funny that we have people in this thread calling The Oklahoman a "journalistic turd", yet the national media is clearly on Carlson's side, and I completely agree.

It won't surprise me at all if OSU uses this as an excuse to can a very poor coach and start over.