Ran into this post on a Sonics forum...Anyone heard of this or better yet heard of anyone actually getting a ticket w/o actually getting pulled over on the Turner turnpike...Usually do 80 to 85 mph so if it is valid I'm guessing the threshold is over 90?? (He doesn't say it but we were discussing how long the drive from Tulsa to OKC is)

If you drive over the speed limit on the Turnpike you are living dangerously. It's been a few years since I drove it but on the toll ticket I noticed it had the my time between toll plazas and average speed. Since I stopped at one of the oasis my speed was well below the limit but I asked asked someone if they give speeding tickets based on toll tickets and was told they do over a certain threshold

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I don't know the law, but I'm assuming it isn't true....I don't have a gazillion tickets and I take the turnpike frequently to get to work and I...well, I go fast let's just say.

Yeah...Last time I made that trip, I averaged over 100 between the gates...No ticket here. That was a little under a year ago, so if something has changed, it's been since then.

Not true. While they be able to record the date, time and speed you were traveling - they don't actually know WHO was driving the car.

Unless or until we are required to put tags on the front of our cars (thus allowing a video image that contains all the necessary elements - date, time, speed, car, tag number and your face) then don't worry about it.

On freeways, it is customary for law enforcement agencies to give you a ten mile per hour leeway. Rumors and myths fly all the time.

Personally, I do not go over 75 on any freeway, usually.

Kind of what I was thinking bailjumper, but I think we will see something along the lines of your second paragraph in our lifetimes

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I don't think it would be unreasonable for the state to require us to put tags on the fronts of our cars. Most other states require it. The reasoning seems to make sense, and it doesn't really put any undue burden on anyone.

I would not say that too loud. One of our fine legislators might turn that idea into law then force us to pay $25 more for the "Extra expense it will cost the state to make additional tags."

The money will then find its way to providing a personal luxury car for each state government offical.

Nobody should ever drive 100 MPH on any turnpike for any reason. That is pure craziness and a death wish.

Call me crazy then. I go back and forth from the Chandler Municipal airport frequently, and to cut the drive time I rarely drive under 90MPH.

The safety issue is no more complicated than the type of car and the person behind the wheel. I can think of a few million German motorists that would laugh themselves silly at that comment.

I hope they DO make it a law. Plus, I doubt the other states charge extra for that front plate. I know at least one that does not.

Except on a NASCAR or Indy track, where 100 is actually like driving 20 on a freeway.

Bailjumper's rationale is spot on.

One hundred miles per hour is slightly beyond my comfort zone.

Operative word: "slightly".

(I am advised that my car will do a maximum of 130 mph. I say "advised" because I have not in fact verified this myself. However, I do drive on H-rated tires, which are good for up to, um, 130 mph.)

Oh, and I know of no state that specifies a separate fee for the front plate: it's a package deal, and that's that. (Disclosure: Last state I had to have two plates for was California, and I was last registered there in 1990.)

My tires are rated 170+ MPH and I've had it to 150 (on a closed course) where it experienced zero problems. Highly stable and perfectly safe because it was designed to do it....I very rarely drive over 100, and when I do, it's only in areas where I can see clear road with no places for traffic to enter the roadway, and VERY minimal traffic at all. I also will not pass another vehicle traveling more than 10 mph faster than they are.

Welcome to the world of red-light cameras...that haven't found their way here yet. The tickets ususally range from $50 to $100...and go to the owner of the car. Totally enforceable. Of course I think one of the drawbacks in Oklahoma that would keep these away...the license plates here follow the car, not the driver. Any other state you kept the same car tags until you requested to have a new one. Here, your tags go with the car more often than not it seems.

I wouldn't be against red light cameras. It would raise a lot of money for the city, make people more conscious about their unsafe driving, and best of all, since I don't run red lights, it wouldn't be enforced against me.

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People find that they actually do run red lights, once the cameras are installed. All those times you pushed a yellow... ticket. If any part of your car is in the intersection when the light goes red, you are ticketed. That "extra" car through the turn light.. ticket.

They did it while I was in Denver, and people were ticked to realize that what they were doing daily was actually against the law.

Well.. yellow doesn't mean speed up.

I don't run yellow lights any more than red. If I can safely stop the car, that's what I do.

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Out of all the places I've ever lived, Denver was by FAR the worst for red light runners. Especially the left turn lane. Three cars after the red was the standard at every intersection in town. It drove me insane.

Yea, that was a product of their poor traffic planning. The guy in charge set the lights to allow 2 cars per cycle, then yeild on green. however, he then decided that was too risky and put up red turn arrows.. leaving 2 cars per cycle total. That simply isn't enough to allow traffic to flow, so people pushed 4 or 5 through just to be able to get anywhere. I know people that would lay out their route to make all right turns.

They fired the guy a while back, and the new guy is really good. traffic flows really well in Denver now. Lights are timed to allow major roads to flow all the way from one end to the other, turn lights allow several cars per cycle, etc. I think he used to plan traffic in Manhattan, and quit there because they wouldn't let him run it smoothly.

Well it was bad all over town, not just Denver proper, and the drivers weren't just bad at lights. It was truly one of the worst towns for driving in that I've ever been in.

The fact that there aren't enough highways for the population probably had a LOT to do with that though. Too many cars on the surface streets.

Good to hear that it's getting better...Not that I'll move back or anything

Two things:

-- Red light cameras are nothing more than further introduction into a non-free, 1984 society. It's just another way for them to watch us. And oh, there are times when running a yellow should be option 1. I have my own personal distance guidelines and know the lights in OKC well enough to be able to decide when to run a yellow or stop. As long as I'm not jamming on the brakes, I'm fine either way.

-- There are still 20 states that issue one tag for cars, so it's pretty evenly split in terms of 1-tag or 2-tag states.

By law in Oklahoma

If a car breaks the plain of the intersection and the light is yellow then it is not illegal however if the light is yellow before you break the plain of the intersection the it would be the same as running the light.

As for the deal on the turnpike I have talked to some state troopers and they havetn heard anything about it, maybe in some other states but not in Oklahoma

Thank you Trooper.

While we have an expert in traffic law here, could you please tell us where in the heck we can find an up to date list of traffic regulations? I looked through the Oklahoma Statutes and found a sort of hodge podge list of of rules which were in no way complete.

I think the legislature allows DPS to adopt the Uniform Vehicle Code, but do they do that in whole or in part? Does DPS publish the code for the public to see?

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