i wanna know what everyone thinks about oklahomas system...what are things that has made you mad about it....for example i work somewhere and one of our clients has been to the ER by ambulence over 6 times in 3 weeks....because it is free medicaid pays for it...she is only 26 how does she have medicaid.... also she is going by ambulence b/c she does not have to wait and she can get her rx for FREE instead of going to the pharmacy and paying her copay of $2....which she says she cant afford cause she doesnt have enough for her cigarettes then.... HOW DO THESE PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH THIS?!?!?!..... i am a full time college student and i work full time to support myself and i cant get any help because i have a job and dont have 8 children... i do understand that some really do need this assistance but the people that sell there food stamps and abuse the system reallly tick me off.....So whats everyone else thoughts and views?

I totally agree JebbiCakes. Interesting name there by the way. There has only been one person in my life I have met that I thought should be eligible for disability benefits, my father in law who worked basically every day of his life from age 14 to age 54 and then hurt his back really bad at his job and then got laid off. He literally can't do a full days work, or even a half day. And while he worked hard and paid taxes, he can't get help, but peices of sh** with 5 kids who have never worked a day in their life can get it just from stubbing their toes.

When I got married I had to sit at the ss office for a couple of hours and couldn't believe all of the people were in there. That is the worst place ever. There was a lady sitting there with a trach hole in her throat, just sitting there with her kids. I understand that, she really looked sick, but dang put a band aid on that. And then another guy was carrying his catheter bag. And the chick next to me had feet that looked like she had never worn shoes a day in her life. I understand if people dont have all of the things that I do, even though I didnt have many things at the time myself. But I also understand at least half the people in there were b-s-ing just to get free money. I get pissed knowing my taxes are paying for people to sit at home all day when they could be working.

I think there is a gross-over characterization of people on Medicaid.

SUre there are people that abuse the system and you'll always here about them but you'll likely never hear about the 85% to 95% of the people that actually need it and utilize its assistance correctly.

I've met several people on Medicaid and other types of assistance programs. They would much rather be independently wealthy so as to afford better medical care, but they can not and make due with what life has given them.

I have no doubts that the person you know abuses the system, but is that any different than people that cheat on their taxes?

I actually dont think I know someone that cheats on their taxes. The shame in it all is that the people who truly deserve the coverage aren't receiving what they should because of these freeloaders. But hey, that's how everything else in life is!

ohhh... we were just talking about this the other night and today..

A former employee just got married bought a 125,000 dollar house, her hubby has a new truck and she is no pregnant. Guess what she came in here and was signing up for medicaid.....

Now.. with this being said .. I am sick of people taking advantage of our system. My hospital bills are almost 100,000 for the 4 allergic reactions I have had in a year that I am having to make payments on and I cant get any assistance.

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Allergic reactions to what?

I completely agree. Not all guv'ment programs are evil. Some are worthwhile and some actually help people in amazing ways. I just don't think that we should throw out the proverbial baby with the bathwater.

What? I've never heard that before. lol. I dont get it.

Sturgeon, "Throwing the baby out with the bathwater" means to toss out a bunch of good ideas just to get rid of one bad one. Like scrapping the entire DHS system because a few people abuse it.

Oh, ok. Thanks Tim! I had literally not ever heard the phrase.

No problem. Stay tuned for "cutting off your nose to spite your face"!

oops I meant NOW Pregnant

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CM... There was some issues going on with some other people and I got silver poisoning. The Dr said with the poisoning I got my immune system is not right and never will be. So now I am allergic to bleach, midol ( naproxen) and other things.. Before I knew all this I had taken some midol on 2 seperate occasions and had severe allergic reactions at work and was rushed to the ER. The 3rd time we bleached the floors at the salon and again the same thing.. The last time it was just a small reaction and I got hives and had to go get shots..

I am paying right around 250 a month to pay those off.. Yeah now I am getting insurance to save me that much.. lol

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I get pissed too... and those people could have the same as we do they just choose not to work their buts offf.... they know they can sit on their asses and still survive.... its just not fair and im tired of it being unfair.... i have been talking to some state reps about making a new bill hopefully we will see tho

well see and i dont know if it needs to be changed completly but it does need to change how the employees do things def...and enforce the rules... i know this girl that told me her auntie is on dhs and only gets checked on like every six months and she knows when they come so she gets a job the week of and then quits.... go figure....must be nice..... and im def not racist but whites are becoming the minority and i just think american should make everything fair no more indian clinics no more anything to make up for something someone did 100 years ago.... make it fair to everyone a free clinic for people with no health insurance whats wrong with that?

Jebbicakes,

It seems you are saying things are unfair just because YOU don't get the benefits. You may not be racist but your comments clearly are.

Certainly there are people who cheat the system but for the most part it works. No one is not getting aid because others are. You either qualify or you don't. There is not a set amount of money for the program.

At best a single person on medicaid and qualifies for SSI gets about $600 a month. Out of that they have to pay to pay all of their bills. Even if they get some sort of rental assistance, they have to pay about $200 for rent, so that leaves $400 to try and live. Food stamps gets them about $25 a month.

Many disabled people don't have much of a support (emotional and physical) system family wise because sadly their families have some of the same attitudes you guys have. Or they just don't have families that can be there for them. It is the nature of living with serious illnesses.

On top of this they have to battle their illnesses, whether they be physical or mental. Many very sick people look pretty good on the outside. Think twice before you get offended. I bet the kid with the stoma wishes he didn't have to offend you by having almost died.

OK DHS has a wide avenue of assistance programs. Their umbrella of services is huge and makes available services to anyone who meets the criteria eligibility.

Not any one person makes a personal decision regarding eligibility, it must meet ALL the necessary criteria.

To view someone in which we think might not be needy is absolutely wrong.

Many people have unseen disAbilities. Many suffer from mental illnesses. Of course, there are some that take advantage of services.

Income is the general criteria for needy individuals and families, assistance to foster children, as well as the elderly all fall under specific criteria issues.

Families can qualify for all types of temporary programs and there are those that will qualify for long - term programs.

Just because someone lives in an expensive home or drives a new truck, that does not mean that they own them, perhaps they are owned by another family member.

DHS allows you to own a home, in which you live in, and an automobile. Same for SSDI (social security disAbility Income).

You can be able to work in some cases and still receive benefits. You are encouraged and in some cases it is mandatory that you must work and/or be searching for work.

As for unfairness of benefits to anyone, they had to qualify.

IF you suspect FRAUD, then you have the obligation to report it. It is not laid upon you to prove it, just make a report and DHS will investigate it. This will assist our systems in being 'fair' to one and all. No one has the right to complain without taking the time and effort to participate in the attempt to fix it. ("If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem")

PLEASE do not be afraid to go in to your local office and see if you can qualify for any of the many temporary or long - term programs. The offices are user friendly and they do not discriminate or pose their personal opinions. There are professionals in there, now, that act professionally and really do try to help meet any need that they can. Each and every program has eligibility criteria, as each and every individual or family has individual needs.

The OKDHS will make every attempt to help meet your needs. BUT the first step is up to you. All you have to do is walk in the door or call them for an appointment.

IF, for any reason, you are made to feel uncomfortable, then simply, ask for that person's supervisior.

The OKDHS website is extensive and explains the programs and the criteria necessary. They will not automatically know what your particular needs are UNTIL you relate it to them.

To think otherwise is to continue with a biased stigma long attached to the service that is available for ANYONE and EVERYONE. OKDHS as well as all state and federally mandated programs are there for assistance and we should ALL be very proud of the system that we have here in Oklahoma!

Please don't be frustrated or mistrustful, unless you have made the attempt to access services and feel unfairly denied, and even then, there are always alternatives to grievances.

Just in the time that it took me to type this out.....your application for services could have already been filed.

When the Feds do a Needs Assessment for the State of Oklahoma, then it meets the needs reported, not those that are not, other states that do that, get the Federal $$$$$$$.


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[quote= make it fair to everyone a free clinic for people with no health insurance whats wrong with that?[/QUOTE]

There is a free clinic for virtually anyone without health or medical insurance, it's called the County Health Department. It's where I take my kids to get their immunization shots as well as their checkups. They even have Dental Clinics too.

We all know that some people scam. All their friends and relatives look the other way and we do, too. There are people who actually need help and I don't know anyone who begrudges them. What I hear CONSTANTLY is people who complain that they NEED benefits because they have 'X" number of kids (usually no second parent) and how ELSE are they going to get by? Hello? Birth control? Don't tell me that "accidents happen." I grew up with typical households of 4 - 6 kids. You don't see that, anymore so SOMETHING is working. People keep popping out children and expect the rest of the world to pay for them.