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This is the same Expressjet that operates the Continental Express RJ's at CO's hubs at CLE, EWR and IAH, but Expressjet Holdings Inc. has created its own airline, the name of which is Expressjet Airlines (like Mesa Airlines of NM). The new airline will be adding n/s point-topoint service between Oklahoma City and various cities, none of which have been disclosed as of yet. Here's the article from The Oklahoman:
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The first aircraft painted in the airline's livery: Airliners.net Photos: ExpressJet Airlines Embraer EMB-145XR (ERJ-145XR) |
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a discussion without fighting with everyone? Okay, I'll bite. Can you please reveal why you are an expert on air travel?
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Yeah, it's strange that any company would base their supply on any kind of real demand. I know that everytime someone wants to buy 2 things from me I go ahead and invest in 10, just to be bigger. Then again, maybe you're right. Airlines do love losing money. Why not lose some more in Oklahoma City, too. |
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Says in this article that Expressjet will pursue a "Goldilocks Strategy." Meaning it will fly routes that are good fits for its RJ's:
Source: Smaller cities on radar of new airline : National-World : Albuquerque Tribune Should be interesting to see how this works. A couple of things going for Expressjet are that it has a proven track record as a profitable feeder as Continental Express and it is not a low cost airline, its fares will be pretty much similar to other airlines. In The Oklahoman article it was stated that it has done market research before setting these new routes up. Also, it will have free XM satellite radio in all aircraft and free snacks. The route announcements will be on the coming Monday. |
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The pairs are released, see my post above. ExpressJet has been around for decades, starting as Britt Airways in the midwest. Why would American buy them? Did you miss the part this airline has been married to Continental for years? Anyways...this is an interesting concept, and one that really needed to be attempted. Indy Air tried, but with a hub-and-spoke concept. Many believe the RJ was meant for a role like this...connecting a bunch of O&D markets that are too thin for any other level of service. 757s or larger would be a waste on these routes. Sure we would all love the fly larger jets, but lets be honest...there is no way a 757 is getting filled daily to San Antonio or to Sacramento. The break even on these RJs will probably be around 35 pax. I don't think any of us aviation buffs have refused anything. |
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Figured I would throw the rest of cities getting service up here...
Spokane, Boise, Sacramento, Fresno, Monterey, Bakersfield, Ontario, San Diego, Tucson, El Paso, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, Albuquerque, Colorado Springs, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Omaha, Kansas City, Louisville, New Orleans, Birmingham, Raleigh/Durham, and Jacksonville. Out of just these cities...I can see a weekend trip to Corpus, resumption of previous UAX service to New Orleans, and also flights to Jacksonville. Colorado Springs is another possiblity as WestPac and Great Plains both operated it from OKC with some success. This will be interesting. Other markets I see them going, not specifically from OKC, would be Portland (OR), Reno, Little Rock, Des Moines, Duluth, Madison, Springfield (IL), Indianapolis, Grand Rapids, Lansing, Toledo, Dayton, Tri-Cities, Columbia, Myrtle Beach, Sanford, St. Pete, Fort Myers, West Palm Beach, Washington Dulles, Harrisburg, Syracuse, Rochester, and Newburgh. Okay I'm done posting for a bit. I'll try to track down the flight schedules.
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Wow! That's fantastic. I do wonder how Tulsa will do since it is so close. And Sacremento seems odd, but maybe we have more traffic to/from there than I think. It will be great to have service to all these cities. I guess with this, ExpressJet becomes the carrier with the most non-stop cities from WRWA.
Do you know if they will codeshare with anyone, or will the have their own rewards program? |
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Are you serious?!! Holy cow! All these cities from Oklahoma City nonstop? That's fantastic, I hope all do well. Though I dunno about Tulsa, the route is too short and doesn't have that many passengers and a lot of people drive anyway.
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^He got it here:
ExpressJet If you browse the website you'll find the route map and the cities served, and also that it will launch its own FF program. |
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Definitely not much O/D traffic to and from TUL.
Tulsa may be more of a connecting route. Kind of way Delta used to do it. Say you needed to get to some city, but couldn't get the earlier flight n/s from OKC. Just hop on the flight to Tulsa and go from there. (Or the other way around.) |
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Tulsa is not listed as a non-stop from OKC. They have service with ExpressJet, but not to and from Oklahoma City. At least, that's according to this:
Destination List From OKC Oklahoma City, OK (OKC) Albuquerque, NM ------ April 16 Austin, TX ------------ April 23 Ontario, CA ----------- April 16 Sacramento, CA ------- May 7 San Antonio, TX ------- TBA San Diego, CA --------- May 7 Venture, do you know if they had Tulsa on the route schedule, but removed it? ---------------- |
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The interactive route map shows flights to/from TUL.
I agree CRP, MSY, and COS could be nice additions. I'd also like to see maybe BHM, and RDU, especially if US doesn't add CLT. |
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Big surprise. There is nothing about this on flyokc.com. This will be the updated list of non-stop destinations:
Albuquerque Atlanta Austin Chicago O'Hare Cincinnati Dallas Love D/FW Denver Detroit Houston Hobby Houston Bush Kansas City Las Vegas LAX Memphis Minneapolis Newark Ontario, CA Phoenix Sacramento Salt Lake City San Antonio San Diego St. Louis |
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^Well, the official press release hasn't been out yet, that will likely be on Monday when Expressjet officially discloses the routes and schedules. So let's wait and see what the airport does.
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