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Ummmm, I think it's time to start thinking about MAPS III. I still like Susan Johnston's idea of a MAPS for neighborhoods that would focus on city-wide beautification! Part of this plan could include building more parks along the Oklahoma River, as well as other places in the city. Let's just make Oklahoma City Beautiful a city agency, and fund them with MAPS III money.
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There is an overwhelming body of statistics, demographic data and other evidence that supports BEAUTIFICATION as a top factor, along with quality educational opportunities, access to cultural attractions and facilities and overall quality of life, in attracting the best companies and the best jobs. Good companies want to locate where their executives and other employees can enjoy a good quality of life.
OKC is definitely moving in the right direction on all fronts. We have a long way to go, but we have come a very long way since the days of urban destruction and oil bust. We have enjoyed excellent civic leadership, made some tough decisions, taken some well thought out risks and are reaping the benefits. Quote:
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I agree about the huge need for beautification and landscaping BUT...
...It's very difficult to accomplish when you have the massive sprawl that characterizes most of OKC. Millions could be spent on the Memorial corridor alone and it would still be ugly. Also, until there are enhanced requirements for landscaping and signage for developers, what the city can do in public spaces would be a drop in the bucket. I would enthusiastically support large beautification projects only if they were partnered with tighter development restrictions and some sort of endowment to maintain what is put in place. |
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Very good chance that MAPS 3 will include Beautification and Mass Transportation as the top priorities. We still have two years left on the Maps for Kids but I can tell you that these things are already being talked about and planned
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As far as specific beautification projects, here's some areas where we could get good bang for the buck:
1. Meridian from I-40 to the airport. 2. The Oklahoma River. 3. The new boulevard that will be built in the former I-40 corridor. 4. I-35 south of downtown Just some ideas. |
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Also, Last year, new landscape requirements were adopted by OKC for new development and sidewalk requirements on the surrounding major streets were added to the requirement for sidewalks within the development. The problem is that we have so many years of developing on the cheap to overcome. There are miles and miles of inner-city streets with bare dirt paths worn next to them where there should be sidewalks. Development in the burbs has been accomplished without any consideration for pedestrian activity so the challenges are even greater out there. Memorial Road is an example of a few cheapskate developers subverting a good plan. The OKC Planning Department did a good master plan with thoughtful design guidelines for Memorial Road several years ago prior to Quail Springs being built. If you notice the quality of construction, landscaping and monument style signs at and right around Quail Springs as opposed to the south side of the turnpike and to the east; there is a marked difference. As development went forward post-Quail Springs, individual developers obtained variances through the Planning Commission, City Council and OKC Board of Adjustment to permit the tall signs, lower quality materials and cut backs on landscaping. For all practical purposes, Memorial Road is just a bigger and more ruined version of May Avenue between NW 23rd and Memorial. It's just ghastly. Fortunately, The City is making more good planning and development decisions today and over the next few generations, OKC can become more appealing. City boards and commissions are not the candy jar for cut-rate developers that they once were. The citywide trails system and improved mass transit plans are a couple of examples. Also, the change of directors in the Public Works Department will have a major impact on what OKC looks like going forward. Unfortunately, it's a very slow process and obviously there's much more to do. At least we're moving in a good direction.
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I personally think we should start with areas that tourists see most......our interstates. I still don't understand why we can get some creeping vines to grow up the concrete walls along I-44. Seems to work on the south canal.
I like the planters that were built along I-44 south of I-40, but they don't seem to be very well maintained. Personally, I think the parks department as a whole needs to be divided up. It's become too large of an organization to manage appropriately. We need separate agencies to handle city beautification, and leave the parks to the parks dept. |
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Indeed Patrick. We need a a sub-section of the parks department that focuses on beautification projects. We had one but it was shut down a year or so ago due to lack of funds. Hopefully with the strong energy sector and the economy booming locally, we can bring them back. We should all get a petition going to the city council in an effort to bring back a forestry or beautification department. We should have another budget surplus this year after all!!! I strongly disagree that making OKC Beautiful a government agency is the way to go. They mismanage funds and I think we can do better. The overhead there is too high and the projects could be of better quality.
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I agree with The Old Downtownguy. Personally, I think we need to change our policies on the approval of permits for development. In OKC there really aren't a lot of restrictions on landscaping and the like. In contrast, look at all Wal-Mart had to go through to build their Supercenter at Danforth and Santa Fe. It definitely isn't your typical Wal-Mart. Truth is, Wal-Mart would've built in OKC no matter the restrictions the city placed on them. Thus, OKC should've put heavy restrictions on them like Edmond did.
Improving beautification is going to have to start at city hall, changing the way we do business with developers. |
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Every time an OKC garbage truck dumps one of those blue curbside containers and every time one of the commercial haulers empties a dumpster, a little bit of trash blows out. Add to that all of the fast food wrappers that get thrown out of car windows and it becomes the really big problem that we have here in OKC. On the upside, the litter level downtown has been reduced to a bare minimum by the litter abatement services provided through the downtown BID. The litter doesn't accumulate and people are less likely to throw stuff down on a clean sidewalk than one that is already thick with trash. Litter along the interstates and suburban roadsides gets too little attention. The two biggest imporvements that could very easily be made to control litter are (1) requiring that all blowable trash put into the blue curbside containers and commercial dumpsters is bagged first and (2) that any load in a truck, no matter what it is or how small, be properly covered. Both of those actions could be done by City Government. There is already an ordinance dealing with uncoverd loads. Unfortunately it is seldomly enforced. Requiring all loose trash to be baggd before disposal is an easy ordinance to write and, better yet, could be part of a comprhensive anti-litter ordinance overhall that could include a bottle deposit and return component.
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I will agree that we have a litter problem, but I've been to a lot of other cities, where the problem is indeed worse. NYC for example. Even Dallas.
The only city where you can eat off the concrete is Seattle. And I can tell you what their secret is.......pride and enforcing the law. My dad took a group of military men around when he was in summer camp in Seattle. One of the guys in his car decided to throw a bottle out of the car window on one of the freeways. The police noticed, and wrote him a $500 ticket. Ouch! |
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