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Even one year ago, these announcements would have generated dozens of comments on OKC blogs and today they are received as business as usual. Wow, what a difference a year makes. I guess the excitement will be generated as they near completion and we get to look at the finished products.
The old adage that retail follows roof tops should begin to come true as all this residential building comes on line. The City is engaged in a demographics/potential site/recruitment process that will have a new urban grocery retailer lined up by late Spring 2006. |
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The OKCURA has given Henderson a drop dead date of 12/22/05 or there-about to start moving dirt on the project. There have been numerous delays including a telephone cable down the middle of the site that had to be relocated and some petro-hazard dirt that was removed and replaced about two months ago. But that doesn't really account for the extensive delays. Something should pop next week on this. Either Henderson will get going or we're back to square one and one-half.
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Oh well, if they cancel his project then someone else will have something soon.
If I were a city official who had to keep moving the deadline for him I'd be really mad that he wasn't learning his lesson. |
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True, but why are we wasting so much time on a guy who has made no apparent effort? The guy seems to have had cold feet for some time, lack of financing, second thoughts, who knows?, and yet, we continue to move the target for him.
The writing has been on the wall for years, OCURA has just refused to pay attention to it. Hoping the guy comes through does not guarantee us a project. This should be ready for occupancy right now, not in the anticipatory dirt-turning stage. That's some pretty valuable real estate OCURA is bequeathing to an apparent do nothing. |
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The down side of continuing delays on the Henderson Legacy project and also the OKCURA parcel at NW 13th and Walker (Precor had that under contract a couple of years back, until their demand for additional land to the South didn't happen and they bailed out) is that all the major new construction is occurring East of Broadway. If these two other projects were under construciton or completed now, we would be expanding on two fronts rather than one; urban infill housing would be way ahead of where it is now and the much coveted new downtown grocery store operator would have a larger customer base calling them.
Of course, either one of those sites is potentially a new downtown grocery store location so it could work out in the long run. That may be the unstated reason for the holdup on the Legacy site. That is in fact the reason for delay that the OKCURA gives when asked about the time line for a new RFP on the 13th and Walker parcel. A mixed use project at the Legacy site with a Whole Foods as the anchor tenant or a stand alone Whole Foods at 13th & Walker would be excellent. Should either scenario happen, redevelopment in Midtown would absolutely explode.
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What would be great for that location is something like Pentagon Row in Arlington, VA. The 1st floor (and 2nd in some parts) of the development has Harris Teeter (grocery), Bed Bath & Beyond, a drug store, a few restaurants, and some mall-type shops. Above everything are about 3-4 floors of apartments. Parking is in the middle of the development (you can't see it from the street) in a multi-level parking garage. Seems to me like a development with a grocery, a couple restaurants, and maybe a couple stores with apartments above would really be good downtown. Or, is something like this planned for OKC Town Square?
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Brianinok Wrote "The 1st floor (and 2nd in some parts) of the development has Harris Teeter (grocery), Bed Bath & Beyond, a drug store, a few restaurants, and some mall-type shops. Above everything are about 3-4 floors of apartments. Parking is in the middle of the development "
Henderson's Legacy project design includes most of the elements you mention brianinok, first floor retail, residential above, parking garage behind, except for the grocery store and other large anchor tenants. The parcel isn't large enough to house the bigger stores and still provide the back door loading docks and parking they need. The ground floor retail spaces would attract more boutique scale users. It did just occur to me this morning that the property across the street, owned by Rick Dowell, formerly Bob Moore Cadillac, might be large enough and have sufficient parking for a grocery store. It will be interesting to see the list of potential grocery store sites that the consultant retained by the City comes up. Hopefully the process won't get contaminated by insider arm twisting as did the OKCURA's selection of a developer for The Hill.
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Here's a good summary of present and planned housing developments from today's Oklahoman:
Downtown OKC Housing by the numbers Existing multiunit housing built before voters passed the Metropolitan Area Projects in 1993: Sycamore Square: 120, built 1982. Regency Tower: 274, built 1965. The Aberdeen: 119, built 1927. Multiunit housing built since 1993: Deep Deuce at Bricktown: 294 units, built 2000. Fifth Avenue Lofts: 20 units, opened 2002. Garage Lofts: 24 units, opened 1995. The Montgomery: 84 units, opened 2005. Total: 422. Multiunit housing scheduled to be built in 2006: Block 42: 36 units. Harvey Lofts: 16 units. Park Harvey Apartments: 178 units. The Triangle: Starting with 15, total uncertain. Central Avenue Villas: 30 units. The Hill: 171 units. Lower Bricktown: 30 units. Kerr McGee office buildings: 70 units. Legacy Summit at Arts Central: 303 units. Sieber Hotel: 38. Total: 887 |
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What's the latest on the Sieber. It's been snoozing for quite a while.
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Here's a newer photo of Block 42:
![]() The have the beginnings of a website here: http://www.block42.com/ Also, there is a great video of the development on this page: Link |
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