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All of the previous MAPS projects were built (but not necessarily as promised, most not on time and definitely not on budget). All of the previous MAPS projects were listed on the Ballot. None of the "proposed" MAPS 3 projects are mentioned (and they could have been). Addressing the budget question, overall MAPS projects went 47.75% OVER what voters were told shortly before the election. The 1st number under each project/date opened is the amount voters were told just prior to the election, except as noted, come from an Oklahoman article, Major-league status sought voters to decide on $237.6 million plan (11/14/93). The 2nd amount is the Final Cost from the City’s Website. Amounts in red are the $$$ amount it went over. DISCLAIMER: If any of the calculations are in error, please advise. The Ballpark (1998) $21.8M $34M --------- $12.2M The Canal (1999/2003-2004) $9M $23M --------- $14M Civic Center (2001) $27M $53M --------- $26M Cox Convention Improvements (2000) $24.9M $60M --------- $35.1M Fairgrounds Improvements (1997/1998) Was to include a “...world class auction center to increase Oklahoma’ City’s ability to attract horse industry events. Other tax money would fund improvements to existing facilities.” Don't know if we got that or not. $11.5M $14M --------- $2.5M Ford Center (2002) The Ford gets rather convoluted with the numbers. There were the Voters Told ($78.9), Budgeted amounts (after the vote, $74.8), bid amounts that went even lower ($64.8M), then estimates that were as high as $93M at one point). Didn't try to exaggerate and use the lowest number/highest numbers found, stuck with the voters told and the "final" numbers (does NOT include the recent $120M Ford improvements). $78.9M $87.7M --------- $8.8M Library (2004) $15.9M $21.5M --------- $5.6M Okla River (1999 - 2004) $28.1M (This amount is the balance after the $9M for the canal is removed, in this article the Canal & River were lumped together for a total cost of $37.1M) $53.5M (City's site still has this as an estimated amount) --------- $25.4M Trolleys (1999) Originally pitched as a light rail system costing taxpayers a net $3M ($16M total cost with $13M to be in Federal funding) also, it was to be “a rail transport system, connecting west Oklahoma City [Meridian hotel cooridor] with downtown” (not just downtown area as in MAPS 3) $3M $5M --------- $2M Misc: $17.5M (about the same amount as in MAPS 3, yet MAPS 3 is 3.25 times the amount of MAPS) TOTAL $237.6M $351.7M --------- $114.1M Here is what voters are being told the MAPS 3 projects are going to cost (looking at the above, will be interesting to do the comparison of completed costs 10 years or so from now). Of course NONE of it is mentioned in the Ballot/Ordinance. Quote:
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If the interest amount is correct the City would be better served by delaying everything as long as possible, let all of that interest accumulate then build everything with the interest (leave the principle alone) and there would never be a need for any future MAPS sales taxes! |
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Yeah, sorry for the confusion. I meant to say the State Fairground Improvements or Exhibition Hall. One of my co-workers goes to the racetrack a lot (because her son races) and she was worried that it would be torn down. I figured there wouldn't be a better group of people to ask than here.
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Thanks so much Larry. Now, I have one more question. Did they go over budget because costs went up for labor and construction or was it that they made changes to the original plans or both?
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FYI - saw a blurb in another DOK article that mentioned the City of Nashville, a direct competitor to OKC and a city of relatively the same population, is voting in the next few weeks on a $585 million dollar convention center.
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Thanks again! |
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The info may be in Doug's article but it was a combination of things. Labor/construction cost more for sure, but things were left out (like engineering studies, landscaping, etc) according to a Journal Record article at the time. As things progressed, wish list items for the projects kept getting added in then when costs exceeded estimates, wish list items were cut to try to bring things down again. So yes and no, things could have been much worse if they hadn't cut some of those wish list items, as it was they still came in at 47.75% over what voters were told.
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