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Solitude - The owners said a long time ago the name would be Oklahoma City something. I don't see the big deal about using QQJB money. In fact, I love it that they are using an existing state program and not asking for something special. That program is available to any company moving to Oklahoma and we increase its visiablity to other companies. Plus, using an existing program would actually take pressure off having a Oklahoma something name.
We have been through this a thousand times - allowing a company to keep their own money is not a give-away.
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Also, Kerry, just because they said at one time, way back that it would be OKC (did they?) doesn't mean they can't change their mind for economic purposes. The Tulsa mayor was there today too, btw.
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Okay... for an out-of-stater that might have missed it, what was actually said? And was there a 'lock' on the fact that we are getting a team... and when?
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Kerry, Temporarily hosting the Hornets and this group owning the team are two different things. The fact it said "OKC" on the Hornets patch means nothing at this point. I ask again - who is "they said?" Link?
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I have to agree with you, solitude. I believe the owners needed a united front from the state, not just the city, to show that this is a bigger market than just Oklahoma City. And they're right. With fans across the state, and a few in Wichita and some surrounding states, this is a market of almost 4 million people, which makes it a very viable operation.
My attitude is: Whatever works. I'd like the entire state to support the team. I'd be thrilled if people from anywhere in Oklahoma felt ownership of the team. If that means leaving the word "City" out of the name, then so be it. As far as OQJP money is concerned, this one I'll have to think about. I am quite sure there will be very few people involved in market, management and team operations moving from Seattle to OKC, so those will be new jobs. I have no earthly idea how many jobs that involves, or what kind of payroll. Hopefully there will be some explanation forthcoming. |
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As far as a time frame, both Clay Bennett and David Stern said that if they can't come up with a financial solution for the lease, that they will abide by the judges decision regarding the lease. |
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It should only be the Oklahoma City_________, not Oklahoma______ for the simple fact that when it comes down to the actual taxpayers funding the arena upgrades (which, as clearly stated by Mr. Stern were ABSOLUTELY necessary for us to get a team), we are all from OKC.....not even our suburbs are included in the tax......just METRO residents...no disrespect to anyone outside the metro, but don't get angry when some want the largest, and capital city in our great state to be represented with the air of civic independence it deserves.
And to the antagonists: I guess we should also rename everything else we're proud about here in OKC to Oklahoma_______ also, huh? EDIT: maybe there are also some who aren't getting the concept yet, but there are already teams\organizations in place here designed to unite the entire state in support......OKLAHOMA Sooners\ Oklahoma STATE Cowboys, etc.. I find it extremely narrow-sighted for one to assume that as new and large of a deal as this is for everyone in our state, that ANYONE needs any other motivator for supporting the team..... just silly |
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They want to be a part of NBA in OKC. And they will likely bring their money and time and invest in the success. And if you are an investor, you know this, as well. |
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I'm a metro OKC guy, but I can swallow my pride a little bit and lose the "City" if that will tend to increase support from Tulsa. Really, that's the only group of people that would be irritable that it's the OKC ______ instead of the Oklahoma _____. I don't think people in Shawnee, Kingston, Duncan or Gotebo will be too irritated and refuse to support if it's OKC ___.
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Sure the Mayor of Tulsa was there but so what? The Tulsa Mayor shows up so all of sudden the "City" portion gets dropped. That's rediculus. They cited motivating items such biotechnology, banking, oil, aviation etc. Where do yu think those industries are located? They are all in OKC.
Tulsa does have American Airlines but OKC has Tinker AFB, Boeing, Northrop Grummond, plus the only space exploration company in the state. Yes Tulsa has BOK but OKC has MidFirst Bank which is the 3rd largest private bank in the US and the CEO owns the team. BOK also a large workforce in OKC. Trust me - the name will be OKC.
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Rifleman - let me ask you this. Can you imagine anyone in Ardmore saying, "Screw the OKC whatevers, they put City in the name so I am not going." That would never happen. However, leave City off and you will have a bunch of pissed off PRIMARY SUPPORTERS on your hands.
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The difference between OU\OSU teams and an NBA team, is that they represent 2 different ideals for why they play the game. For college, it's all about REPRESENTING THE STATE, and everyone in it....The NBA is a business, and it's job is not always to do that. I think we all agree that when we travel abroad, we're proud to wear the Sooners\Cowboys jerseys and caps....But, until the near future, that is all that was available. Major league sports, however is usually associated with one particular city or region they represent, NOT the entire state that city or region is in.
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I will say this also:
Smaller cities\towns in OK have a legit argument for "City" not being included in the team name, BUT surely a city as large and "major league" as Tulsa should be put to a vote to chip in on the taxes for all of the expenses, but that didn't happen, did it? No, it didn't, but it's funny they show up today trying to lobby themselves for their unwarranted inclusion in the merits OKC is about to recieve for it's efforts. The leadership of Tulsa didn't say a damn word about making this a joint effort, (probably because they didn't believe that we'd actually be this close to getting a team), but NOW that we are, NOW Tulsa has a say in this? please.... |
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Thanks, Brad. That was exactly the knid of response I expected from our brothers up the Turnpike... NBA will gather lots of support from so many cities once it is actually in OKC for good. With 3.7 million folks in the State, how can it not enjoy the support of our populace?
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