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    I do not know much about fish in general. In my limited understanding, fish either need water to live in, or to be steamed in, or at a minimum to somewhat help hold the egg mixture so they can be breaded and fried.

    So, if the live in part is in question due to evaporation, draw down, etc., what prospects exist to harvest the fish for eating (I'm assuming they aren't really pet material, but hey, if that's wrong, let's add pet pools to the mix.)

    Seems a shame for the fish to go to waste instead of waist if it can be avoided, or to lil billy and susie Q's tanks if they are the cute variety in some manner.

    I still say that everyone in OKC should go to Draper lake and fill a jug for Canton. We can all be repaid in fish.

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    I was by Draper on Wednesday, simply because I hadn't slipped by there in a while. Like many bodies of water in Oklahoma, Draper it looked like it still could use a few donated jugs rather than send some on to others.

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    Also Spracht Midtowner (apparently, one of the so-called "Liberal Elites"):

    I disagree. I will water multiple times a day, law permitting this Summer to ensure a velvety carpet of thick, dark green fescue in my shaded back yard, with a solid stand of bermuda in the front yard receiving a similar amount. As a side bonus, the ground around my home will remain wet and my foundation will be more likely to remain in tact. We will pay our water bill dutifully. Do you know how great fescue feels on the feet in the summer months? Silky and cool. Love the stuff.

    If Canton is drawn down so my yard can stay green, so be it. Just so long as my yard doesn't revert to the nasty red clay it was when I moved in.

    I swear.. those folks never watered.
    OKC does have a long term water plan. I honestly don't think any of you have a freaking clue what you are talking about. Between the Cantonites (Cantonians?) incessant whining and the constant speculation about how many acre feet the next rainfall is going to bring either lake's level up or lack thereof will bring it down or others' crazy alarmist statements prognosticating doom and gloom and strife because of a lack of a plan for the city's future needs, this discussion is just silly. Hefner is only one tiny piece of OKC's long-term water plan, and yes, that may very well involve a lot of draw downs of Lake Canton, which now exists only to provide Oklahoma City water and to provide for flood control in NW Oklahoma. No one has the right to ski and fish at Lake Canton, we allow you to use it for that simply because we have nowhere else to put the water.

    Canton just really doesn't have room to gritch here. You have a free lake. If you have a business which depends on that lake, boy you sure look dumb for having your business depend on something not happening which was inevitably going to happen--a draw down during a drought. Who could ever have seen that coming in a state which just under 100 years ago had the freakin' dust bowl
    God's blessing? It's a man made lake. Are you suggesting now that the Army Corps of Engineers is composed of choirs of angels? That hasn't been my experience. And for what it's worth, I'm a great neighbor. I don't leave my dog out at night barking, I keep my yard cut and my flower beds nice and we don't have cacti or succulents or any of that hippy stuff growing in our neighborhood. Just good old fashion suburbia.
    I suspect he is storing up wampum to make sure that neither he nor his precious lawn get scalped.
    BTW: It's xeriscaping, not zero scaping. Perhaps if you would share the address of your pet lawn a "piss-in" could be organized to help keep it green. =)

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    The last 10 posts....classic. Law with the run around and ljbab with the 'shut yo mouth' routine!
    I have never asked Law to shut up. I just requested that accurate comments be used to support points of view.

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    I was by Draper on Wednesday, simply because I hadn't slipped by there in a while. Like many bodies of water in Oklahoma, Draper it looked like it still could use a few donated jugs rather than send some on to others.
    the pipe from the southeast is "full-on" bringing water to draper" but it will still take a while for it to refill

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    I suspect he is storing up wampum to make sure that neither he nor his precious lawn get scalped.
    BTW: It's xeriscaping, not zero scaping. Perhaps if you would share the address of your pet lawn a "piss-in" could be organized to help keep it green. =)
    I merely do what everyone (well the good neighbors) in my neighborhood do. Water frequently, take good care of our lawns, etc. I'm not into "xeriscaping" or manscaping or any of that hippy bullcrap. I have a nice green yard and it isn't even near being threatened. Elsewhere in the U.S., there are serious concerns over water use and water allocation. OKC isn't one of those places.

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    I do not know much about fish in general. In my limited understanding, fish either need water to live in, or to be steamed in, or at a minimum to somewhat help hold the egg mixture so they can be breaded and fried.

    So, if the live in part is in question due to evaporation, draw down, etc., what prospects exist to harvest the fish for eating (I'm assuming they aren't really pet material, but hey, if that's wrong, let's add pet pools to the mix.)

    Seems a shame for the fish to go to waste instead of waist if it can be avoided, or to lil billy and susie Q's tanks if they are the cute variety in some manner.
    ha ha, stupid dead fish. The important thing is the location shots during the NBA finals will look pretty. Big League city, don't mess with the momentum. Exceptional drought, several years running, e`eh, we've got water to spray on the streets in August.

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    Ok, I was sillier than necessary, but I am curious. The water drawn can't be sent back upstream. For fish purposes, it's gone. A regular refrain here is not nearly enough water will be likely to fall to avoid a fish massacre this year. So, what other options, if any, exist to harvest the fish rather than accept a die off. Lake can be restocked at at a later date. Harvesting would seem to be the next step, unless there is no viable way to harvest.

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    The best fishing was always with a boat. The Corps will not allow boats of any kind on the lake, it's too shallow. Fishing is OK from the banks as long as you comply with OK Dept of Wildlife regulations.

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    I get that, though that seems to address recreational aspects more than a significant harvesting option to remove the majority of the fish prior to any massive die-off. Perhaps there isn't a viable method. Again, I know little of fishing and I am only speculating, but I would think recreational limits and approaches couldn't begin to resolve the situation, and would actually work against a major harvesting process.

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    Boat fishing is usually the most successful fishing. There's no way to do harvesting style fishing here, physically or legally. The fishermen are fishing as fas as they can, and we're still hoping the drought will break, and there will be enough water to save the fish.

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    Boat fishing is usually the most successful fishing. There's no way to do harvesting style fishing here, physically or legally. The fishermen are fishing as fas as they can, and we're still hoping the drought will break, and there will be enough water to save the fish.

    So I assume Canton got another good drenching last night/today with the storms. I haven't checked how much we have received in OKC yet but it's a good drenching and still raining.

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    I get that, though that seems to address recreational aspects more than a significant harvesting option to remove the majority of the fish prior to any massive die-off.
    Perhaps fishing with dynamite would be in order?

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    +6000 Acrefeet since the lowest point of the draw down. ~20% restored.

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    +6000 Acrefeet since the lowest point of the draw down. ~20% restored.
    Well that doesn't look so bad. I hope it fills up so next time we need a draw there will be plenty for everyone.

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    So I assume Canton got another good drenching last night/today with the storms. I haven't checked how much we have received in OKC yet but it's a good drenching and still raining.
    While it would have gotten a little, unfortunately where the rain started really coming down was just past the catchment area of Canton

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    Not alot in Canton, less west/north. More farmer water. Comes down slow or remains in one place, melts slow. Not much run off.

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    I wish Ashley Edwards could spell xeriscaping correctly.

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    Plenty of alternatives are available like drought-resistant plants or even a man-made option, synthetic grass, like that from a company based right here in Oklahoma, Always Greener
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    Default Re: Lake Hefner at record low water levels, when will city buy Canton water?

    I read on facebook where someone saw water being released from Lake Overholser this last week and from the gauge levels it looks like that might be true. Why is that? Filling up the Oklahoma River for boating activities like they said they wouldn't do? Is Hefner full? The drought is over? Are we still on watering restrictions?

    USGS Current Conditions for USGS 07241000 North Canadian River blw Lk Overholser nr OKC, OK

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    I read on facebook where someone saw water being released from Lake Overholser this last week and from the gauge levels it looks like that might be true. Why is that? Filling up the Oklahoma River for boating activities like they said they wouldn't do? Is Hefner full? The drought is over? Are we still on watering restrictions?

    USGS Current Conditions for USGS 07241000 North Canadian River blw Lk Overholser nr OKC, OK
    LOL, the Oklahoma River doesn't need any release from Lake Overholser to be full. It stayed bascially full all during last summer's worst drought period. It's been mentioned here before that it really only takes a relatively small amount of water for the river.

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    LOL, the Oklahoma River doesn't need any release from Lake Overholser to be full. It stayed bascially full all during last summer's worst drought period. It's been mentioned here before that it really only takes a relatively small amount of water for the river.
    The last time I looked at it, the south end was completely dry. I think they were working on the lock. And a couple of boats where laying on their sides further upstream on the south docks. That was before the rain. So my question again, and especially if the Oklahoma River was full and not impounding water, did we release water and why? Are all of Hefner, Overholser and the Oklahoma River chock full? Did we flow water from Overholser, through the Oklahoma River and on downstream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkjeeves View Post
    I read on facebook where someone saw water being released from Lake Overholser this last week and from the gauge levels it looks like that might be true. Why is that? Filling up the Oklahoma River for boating activities like they said they wouldn't do? Is Hefner full? The drought is over? Are we still on watering restrictions?

    USGS Current Conditions for USGS 07241000 North Canadian River blw Lk Overholser nr OKC, OK
    It might have been letting some of the junk that accumulates in the dry parts of the river that gets washed downstream when a lot of water comes along pass through river channel next to the lake, rather that let it either settle in the lake or pile up at the dam, they do that when they do they do a release from canton. Alternatively it might be getting time that they were legally required to let some flow downstream, there are some limits on how long after you capture water before you need to release some to meet contractual agreements.

    I doubt Hefner is full or the drought is over. Last I heard we are still doing rationing but have not seen anything new on that in the last couple weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkjeeves View Post
    The last time I looked at it, the south end was completely dry. I think they were working on the lock.
    They drained it on purpose while they were working on the inlet area near the boathouses to make a quasi connection to the canal. They don't need a release from the lake to fill it back up. The amount of water it takes can easily be attained with normal drainage. I don't know if water was released and, if so, why. I'm not, however, going to make unfounded assumptions. I also would want more evidence than someone's facebook post.

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