I hate Ethanol 1,000 times over. It's absolutely horrible. I used to get 22-24mpg and today I did the math on my nearly-empty tank and the number was no 19mpg. In essence, I've been losing 50 miles a tank using the cheaper gas, all to save like $2.00 a fillup. I'd save a few bucks more using the pricier stuff. I believe I'll be switching to the non-alcohol gas.
Here's a list I came across of Metro Oklahoma City stores who sell gasoline without ethanol/alcohol:
September 4, 2008
Metro area NO Alcohol/Ethanol stations.
This list is subject to change at any time. Look for the No Alcohol stickers and banners to be sure you’re purchasing 100% pure gasoline.
K&L Food Mart ¼ W. of I-35 S. side
Prime Foods @ Pine and Noble
Valero @ Pine and Noble
Mini Mart @ Hwy 77 and Sooner
Conoco @ 1612 S. Division
Petty’s Shell @ 1416 S. Division
G Mart Shamrock @ 8th and W. Noble
Shell Food Mart @ 9th and W. Noble
Rainbow Foods west of town on Noble
Conoco @ Waterloo and Broadway
Fina @ Waterloo and Coltrane
Phillips @ Waterloo and Coltrane
Conoco @ Waterloo and Sooner
E-Express @ Danforth and Blvd
Valero @ 2nd and Kelly
Sinclair @ 5th and Kelly
Shell @ 15th and Santa Fe
Finish Line @ 15th and Blvd.
Valero @ Bryant and Memorial
Conoco @ Bryant and Memorial
Pops on Hwy 66 west of town
Shell @ 178th and Portland
Okie Express @ 178th and N. May
Conoco at Memorial and Western
Valero @ N. 122nd and Western
Western Food Mart @ Hefner and Western
Okie Foods south of Hefner on Western
Shell @ Britton and Waverly
Ok Food Market @ 81st and N. Western
Diamond Shamrock at Wilshire and Broadway
Valero @ 63rd and N. Kelley
Conoco @ 63rd and N. Kelley
E-Express @ I-44 and N. Penn
QC Grocery @ 44th and N. Western
Phillips @ 33rd and N. Penn
T & B @ 32nd and N. Western
23rd Food Mart @ 23rd and N. Blackwelder
Valero @ NW Expressway and Wilshire
Express Grocery on Wilshire west of NW Expressway
Shamrock on Lyrewood between Wilshire and 63rd
D-Mart @ 50th and N. Meridian
Goodies @ 63rd and N. Meridian
Shell @ 50th and N. May
Shamrock @ 50th and N. Portland
TBG @ 39th and Ann Arbor
Circle R @ 39th and N. Rockwell
Portland Express @ 36th and N. Portland
Speedy Lube @ 28th and N. Portland
Bethany Food Mart @ 23rd and College
Council Foods @ 23rd and Council
Convenience J @ 23rd and Ann Arbor
Conoco East of I-44 on 23rd
23rd Food Mart @ 23rd and Blackwelder
7 days @ 23rd and N. Walker
L & S @ 18th and N. Portland
Shell @ 16th and Portland
Shell @ 10th and Portland
Beavers west of Portland on 10th
CM Foods East of MacArthur on 10th
Shamrock @ 10th and N. MacArthur
Shamrock @ 10th and Council
T & T west of 10th and Council
Payless @ 8th and Council
Jim's Express @ Melrose and Rockwell
Sinclair @ Council and I-40
Stop & Save @ 20th and N. Rockwell
T & B Outlet @ Melrose and Rockwell
Speedmart @ 17th and N. May
Conoco @ 16th and N. May
Sinclair @ 10th and N. May
Phillips @ 16th and Classen
Discount Tobacco @ 10th and N. Western
Sinclair @ 9th and Virginia
Discount Tobacco @ Main and Penn
Shamrock @ Main and Penn
Valero @ Sheridan and Western
OKC North East
Diamond Shamrock @ NE 122nd and I-35
Shell @ NE 122nd & I-35
5 Star Truck Stop @ NE 122nd & I-35
Save a Stop Conoco @ Hefner and I-35
Shamrock @ Reno and MLK
Corner Market @ 18th and MLK
Handisak @ 27th and N. Kelley
A1 @ 28TH and MLK
Phillips 66 @ 36th and Kelley
Happy Foods @ 36th and N. Kelley
Kelly's Market @ 36th and N. Kelley
H&H east of I-35 on NE 23rd
M Mart east of I-35 on NE 23rd
Andy's west of I-35 on NE 23rd
Old Conoco @ 10th and Sooner
Discount Cigarettes east of Sunnylane on Reno
Lucky's @ 35th and Spencer Road
Old Conoco @ 36th and N. Douglas
G & D @ 36th and Hiawasse
GI’s Market @ NE 10th and Post
Shamrock east of Douglas on NE 23rd
OKC South East
Phillips @ I-40 and Scott St.
Sinclair @ I-40 and Scott St.
Family Mart @ Se 15th between Bryant and Sunnylane
Sinclair @ SE 10th and S. Air Depot
Shamrock @ SE 18th and Sunnylane
AM PM @ SE 15th and Sooner
Valero @ SE 15th and Douglas
Conoco @ 3520 S. Douglas
Valero @ 26th and Shields
Planet Mart @ SE 25th and Central
Valero @ SE 29th and Post
Neighborhood foods @ SE 29th and Post
Old Conoco @ SE 29th and I-40
Take n Go @ Reno and Howard
Phillips @ Reno and Sooner
Conoco @ Sunnylane and I-40
Conoco @ Reno and Woodcrest
2 Go Shell @ Adair and Air Depot
Timesaver @ Reno and Air Depot
AM PM @ Reno and Midwest Blvd
Shell @ Reno and Douglas
Big Joe’s @ Reno and Post
Tuti’s @ 7th and S. Post
Good Times @ SE 44th and Sunnylane
Jordan Mart on SE 44 east of Bryant
Mikies Stop @ 44th and Santa Fe
44 Food Mart on 44th between Shields and RR tracks
Conoco @ 51st and I-35
Super Mart @ 59th and Shields
Q-Mart 66 @ 59th and Lindsey
Valero @ 59th and I-35
Phillips @ 59th and I-35
The Corner Quick Stop on 59th in Valleybrook
Speedy Food Mart on 59th in Valleybrook
M Foods @ 59th and Eastern
Sinclair @ 59th and Sunnylane
Valero @ 89th and I-35
Valero @ I-240 and Sunnylane
OKC South West
Phillips @ Reno and Villa
Conoco @ Reno and Western
Friendly foods @ Penn and Exchange
Phillips @ 5th and S. Walker
Shamrock @ Agnew and 14th
Twin CC @ 15th and Agnew
Express Grocery @ 15th and S. May
Sinclair @ 13th and S. Meridian
Portland food store @ 22th and S. Portland
Conoco @ SW 29th and Meridian
S & A west of Penn on SW 29th
Shell @ 29th and S. Western
Old Conoco @ 29th and Robinson
Western food Mart @ 24th and S. Western
Phillips @ 25th and S. Western
Shamrock @ Agnew and 29th
Corner Market @ Douglas and Grand
Shell @ Penn and Grand
29th Food Mart @ Portland and Newcastle Rd
Speedmart #2 @ 43rd and S. Robinson
Rancho @ 44th and Blackwelder
44 Quick Mart @ 44th and S. Penn
Shell @ 44th and S. Agnew
Penn Quick Stop @ 48th and S. Penn
KT's @ 48th and S. Walker
T & J @ 59th and S. May
Conoco @ 59th and Penn.
59th Kwik stop @ 59th and Blackwelder
Time Saver @ 59th and S. Walker
Super Time Saver at 59th and Villa
M&D west of Western on 59th
Phillips @ 59th and S. Walker
Valero @ I-240 and Shields
Conoco @ I-240 and Penn
Valero @ I-240 and May
TK @ 74th and S. May
OG's @ 89th and S. May
89 Food Mart @ 89th and Shartel
Valero @ I-44 and 89th
Shell @ 104th and I-44
Valero @ 104th and I-44
Conoco @ 109th and S. Western
Conoco on Hwy 62 (Main St.)
Handy’s on Hwy 62 (Main St.)
Lion’s Gas & Go on Hwy 76 North
Gator’s Phillips 66 on Hwy 62 East
Moore Food Mart @ 12th and Broadway
Sinclair @ 12th and Broadway
Valero @ Main and Eastern
TKS @ Main and Broadway
Valero @ 4th and Telephone rd
Jerry’s @ 4th and Telephone rd
Fina Stop 4 blocks west of the Valero on 4th st.
Old Texaco @ 4th and Broadway
Broadway Foods @ 4th and Broadway
Nhu shop @ 17th and telephone rd
Shell @ 19th and Broadway
Norman Food Mart on Berry Rd South of Robinson
Valero on Alameda between 36th and 48th
Alameda Market 7500 E. Alameda
Country Boy @ SE 15th and Choctaw rd.
Panek's Grocery @ NE 29th and Indian Meridian
Speedy’s on NE 23rd
Phillips 66 (Anderson Travel Plaza) @ I-40 and Choctaw rd.
Country Boy @ SE 29th and Harrah rd.
Newalla Gas and Grill @ 18700 SE 59th
City Stop @ Monroe and Piedmont
Jiffy Trip @ Monroe and Piedmont
7 AM on old 66 east of downtown
Sinclair on old 152 and Council Rd
Morgan Foods on 152 and Morgan rd.
Mustang Foods (Cenex) ¼ W. of Sara rd. on 152
Gas n Go Conoco on 152 and Cedar Branch
Bronco’s Phillips 66 on 152 and Pine
Victory Mart on 152 and Czech Hall rd.
New Prime Foods on 152 and Hwy 4
Has it just been in the last couple of months or so that ethanol has come to be in our gas supplies? I never noticed anyone talking about it until this thread took up residence here. Now it seems like everyone is talking about it. I noticed my own car's gas mileage has dropped recently, and when I called a repair shop to ask about putting it on a diagnostic and the mechanic asked why, he launched into a diatribe about ethanol. Well, maybe not a diatribe, but certainly he thought that was a factor in my problem. (I assumed the ethanol had always been there...)
I haven't read through all the posts to see if this has been covered, but I'm a big fan of using STP Gas Treatment every once in a while, and a HUGE fan of their Total Fuel System Treatment product.
My F-150 was running poorly a few years back, just because I only drove short trips. I always had all the proper maintenance done and such, but the engine was knocking and the power was poor. I used the fuel system treatment and it cleared right up. Now I try to use it twice a year. I really believe it's a good product.
I'm also getting ready to try a bottle of Lucas Tune-Up in a Bottle, which bills itself as an upper cylinder lubricant and injector cleaner. A guy at an auto store told me a lot of people swear by that product.
Starting appearing in Oklahoma City for the first time since the early 80's in the Spring of 08. Tulsa got their first taste in the fall of 07.
The whole reason around ethanol being used was it burns cleaner. It wasn't about mileage. Plus its renewable.
Most of my driving is city. I really don't see a big enough diff either way in my SUV. It sucks both ways. Around 14 w/ ethanol, 14.5-15 w/ straight gas.
jsibelius, Some stations started selling in Feb. 08. Most came on later. Easy do it yourself test, get really low on fuel and try a tank of 100%. I know my car gets 15% better fuel mileage on 100% gas. That=about 50 cents/gallon savings.
Jet skis both started acting up this weekend... everyone and I mean everyone was adamant that ethanol was to blame.. you would have thought it was arsenic.. seriously.
I never heard so many different people swear that ethanol was sooo very bad for engines..
Now, I'm worried I've screwed up my engine on my vehicle .. probably time to trade it in..lol I kid, I kid, but I do think I'm done with ethanol... only pure gasoline from here on out.
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No offense, but I think people are way off in blaming a lot of their efficiency problems on ethanol.
E100 is about 85% as efficient as pump gas, and today's E10 blend is still 90% gasoline. So any engineer will tell you that your efficiency loss is not going to be worse than 2-3%. If people think there is a problem with efficiency, they will find it. If you're getting poor mileage, replace your spark plugs and get a tune up.
Put that stuff in, then get out on the highway for a few minutes and let your engine run at a nice brisk pace. This stuff blows the cobwebs right out. Don't fill up again until you are nearly empty, so the product will have the right dilution rate.
Ethanol has a 66% lower BTU value than gasoline. That being said, E-10 based on its BTU value should give you 3.4% less MPG. However; each and every vehicle since about 1987 uses oxygen sensors and an ECM to control the fuel mixture ratios. Ethanol is an oxygenate and most oxygen sensors read the exhaust with ethanol as lean; therefore, informing the ECM to richen the fuel mixture up. That's how you can loose more than 3 to 4 % when burning E-10. The most important part is Each and every vehicle is different and can perform differently on ethanol blended fuels. Most (general statement) on average will lose between 10 to 15% in fuel mileage on E-10. Test each and every vehicle yourself and find out what saves you money. (Not even mentioning increased maintenance costs by quicker replacement of fuel system components caused by ethanol's corrosive properties)
My job uses a fair amount of gasoline during daily operations. Two of our shuttle vans(I should mention the vans are 07 and 08 models) have had serious problems running on 87 ethanol.
Our fleet mechanic suggested we switch to 89 premium unleaded. Since the change the problems have gone away. The octane level seems to off set the effects of the ethanol. At least for a little while anyway. Only time will tell how long the switch will work.
The gas station at 2nd & Kelly is ethanol free.
Also, the McDonald's at 15th & Santa Fe has a couple of pumps that are ethanol free.
I always like that store, Not (The Micky Dee's). They quit selling Super and Plus and have notes about which pumps have ethanol and which don't. Very confusing. Are they really sure?
I'm done with ethanol too. For my car, with complete comparsion of amount fill up and amount paid, the gas with ethanol lasts me one week while gas with no ethanol lasts me two weeks.
I prefer paying $50 bux every 2 weeks for gas only instead of $30 each week with ethanol.
With all this talk of "pure" gasoline, I took the time to put a few dollars worth of the real stuff in on top of my crappy 7-11 gasoline. Maybe it's just the placebo effect, but I swear it ran smoother with a bit more power, and that was just putting in ten dollars worth on top of a half full tank. I think I'm going to start seeking out the real stuff from now on.
And I still encourage everyone to make the trip to WalMart and buy some STP. It seems to work very well.
What is STP?
Yes, my car is running smoother on "pure" gasoline.
After 4 fill-ups on pure gasoline, I too am a believer. The AM/PM on 15th and Sooner has the no-ethanol blend and the price is usually less than 5 cents higher than Shell's 10% ethanol blend.
Well worth it - my miles per gallon improved by 5, city driving.
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