Straight up robbery may be low on my list of reasonable explanations too, but even lower is the story about a guy getting enraged over ice coffee and taking a bar stool and crashing it into their window, right in front of them...

OKCCRIME, what is your friend using to listen to the police band radio?

My grandfather used to love to sit and listen to the police band. Even more so than the TV or radio for his entertainment.

However, a couple of years ago he put the Radio Shack scanner away because OCPD had gone to a different technology. Gramps inquired with Radio Shack but was told there are no retail police scanners that will now pick up their dispatches.

I'd love to surprise him this Christmas with a radio that will do the trick. Any ideas?

BailJumper,

RadioShack is no longer a place you can expect to find anyone who actually knows what they're talking about. Trust me. I worked there for over 8 years. There are people who know, but they are now few and far between. At any rate, after a quick bit of Googling, I have the solution from a pretty credible source. I'll credit the answer to Skip Sanders on the Radio Reference.com board.

-- He has a HAM license, so I assume the man knows what he's talking about.

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I'm sorry, but your friend is incorrect. The window was intact when Coffee Slingers closed that night and broken when my friend (a manager) opened the next morning. She just spent this morning convincing FOX news that their source on the incident was unreliable to say the least.

Friend of a friend. Like I said. I don't know the guy very well.

Absolutely no idea, and from what I understand he's not interested in sharing. Hell, for all I know he could be getting his info through a friend in the force. Or he could even be making it all up. I wouldn't put it past him.

Agreed, I think I fell for the Frappucino Theory. A normal dispute ending in a chair being thrown through a window seems much more reasonable.

If getting tips from OKCTalk is FOX news' approach to investigative reporting, that's sad, very sad indeed.

Really now, what do you expect from FOX 25?

They obviously didn't listen when Barry Trammel clearly explained what BBSes are all about.

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I don't watch t.v. but did someone say that on the news... that's really funny... the truth of anything is usually very banal and run of the mill...It was just a robbery of very small change in the middle of the night....It doesn't even matter who or what...alarm laziness rectification is in order i suppose.....

and a folding chair,flimsy as they are would never go through double panes, each a quarter of an inch thick with a space between them....wierd how the spicing of boring stories is almost a reflex of ours in this here modern world of instant ill communication...It's interesting to see where the collective mind goes with things....lie the old school yard "fight ,fight, fight"...where?

Yeah I had a feeling it was a severely embellished or made up story from the beginning.

I've seen chairs at coffee slingers that aren't folding or flimsy. Something went through that window. If your window specifications are correct, it would have had to be something big.

For the reasons I mentioned before, I don't believe that is a plausible conclusion at all. Someone would have to be an idiot to break such large and hefty windows for the slim chance of finding cash on the premise after closing (when people typically deposit any cash in a bank, or in a locked safe!). Plus, the criminal would have had to literally crawl through tons of broken glass shards to gain entry, especially given the size of the hole. Nope, even the stupidest robber would have gone for the bike shop next door - same chances of finding cash (low) but much higher chances of getting valuable merchandise.

You just don't know how to throw one properly.

I have had 2 windows broken by vandals in the last 30 days in or near the downtown area. The glass company told me they had over 100 calls in July to repair these types of break-ins...all downtown to NW 23rd.

Crimes like this always increase when the weather heats up.

Your place on 23rd is in a really bad part of town, so I would reasonably expect vandalism. I have the impression that Broadway is much safer - more secluded from low income - high crime neighborhoods.

Interesting. I guess that I will have the revise my initial impressions of crime in Automobile Alley.

Thus the plausibility of the Frappucino Theory.

Most areas in the metro have bad areas for borders. These guys broke these windows from Reno to nw 23rd / Classen to Broadway Extension. Very amateur and petty.

I think if there was an arguement, and someone threw something through a window the police would have been called and there would be a report. There also would be one if there was a break in. Might start there.

No - not really. Here's the crime map of Broadway for all crimes in 2007:



As can be seen, the areas around Coffee Slingers (10th & Broadway) - and Red Prime - have pretty low crime rates. There is a slight elevation in crime rates for Automobile Alley proper. Automobile Alley is really quite safe. Especially compared to the area around Cheevers (near 23rd and Broadway). The area beginning at 23rd & Broadway and continuing NE to Paseo is just not safe at all.

well that stinks. hopefully they were able to repair the window for a reasonable price.

whatever the reason, it's a frustrating expenditure for a new business. well any business, really.

drugs are expensive,people are desperate...

One must go NW from 23rd and Broadway to reach Paseo.