A sad reflection on our education system

[PUGalicious]

When I read through the many posts on forums like this one, I'm amazed at how bad the writing, grammar and spelling is. It's a sad reflection on the education so many of us receive; or a sad reflection on our effort as graduates in utilizing the skills we were taught.

A perfectly good post can be diminished by bad grammar and spelling. Somehow, the credibility of someone's expertise or authority on a topic is tainted by bad writing. If people would take the time to read back through their posts, they would catch alot of their own errors.

A lest someone blame today's education system, as evidenced on this message board, the problem is not limited to younger generations; there are plenty of members from older generations just as guilty.

Language is how we communicate with one another. If we do not use the language correctly, the communication is less than effective — and it can lead to much of the misunderstanding that we find in today's debates.

Originally Posted by Scribe

When I read through the many posts on forums like this one, I'm amazed at how bad the writing, grammar and spelling is. It's a sad reflection on the education so many of us receive; or a sad reflection on our effort as graduates in utilizing the skills we were taught.

A perfectly good post can be diminished by bad grammar and spelling. Somehow, the credibility of someone's expertise or authority on a topic is tainted by bad writing. If people would take the time to read back through their posts, they would catch alot of their own errors.

A lest someone blame today's education system, as evidenced on this message board, the problem is not limited to younger generations; there are plenty of members from older generations just as guilty.

Language is how we communicate with one another. If we do not use the language correctly, the communication is less than effective — and it can lead to much of the misunderstanding that we find in today's debates.

I agree with you so much on this one. There is so much bad grammar, spelling, and lack of punctuation in many posts. I am not trying to be critical of anyone, I just know that it only takes a few moments to read over what you have posted, and correct any spelling or grammar errors that you make. I am in no way a writer, however, it is difficult to really read a good post when words are spelled wrong, or there are no commas.

[workman45]

I have to be one of the first to admit to an indifferent attention span in my high school english classes, better add grade school to that as well. Unfortunately that is now coming back to haunt me, but I'll push on and keep trying to improve.

[mranderson]

I am a product of a very low quality Oklahoma City public school system. We were not taught proper diction. I did not learn that until college. In fact, my diction skills would make Jed Clampitt look like a Rhodes Scholar. I am not saying it is perfect now, however, it is much higher quality than the majority of people in this country.

What I would have liked is for my mom to insist the teachers teach me the proper way to pronounce things and spend more indvidual time with me. I have had to teach myself a lot as well.

I will take a phrase and if it is not proper, I will correct myself until I teach myself to say it correctly. Example. "Where 'ya at?" Not correct. "Where are you?" THAT is correct. It took me several months to correct that one.

By the way. To those who like to beat people up. I had the opportunity to attend Heritage Hall, however, I did not know how important that step would become, so I made the decision to graduate with my "friends" at Grant.

[sweetdaisy]

Originally Posted by Scribe

When I read through the many posts on forums like this one, I'm amazed at how bad the writing, grammar and spelling is. It's a sad reflection on the education so many of us receive; or a sad reflection on our effort as graduates in utilizing the skills we were taught.

A perfectly good post can be diminished by bad grammar and spelling. Somehow, the credibility of someone's expertise or authority on a topic is tainted by bad writing. If people would take the time to read back through their posts, they would catch alot of their own errors.

A lest someone blame today's education system, as evidenced on this message board, the problem is not limited to younger generations; there are plenty of members from older generations just as guilty.

Language is how we communicate with one another. If we do not use the language correctly, the communication is less than effective — and it can lead to much of the misunderstanding that we find in today's debates.

I'm so glad someone brought this up. Bad spelling is a one of my pet peeves. However, I'm afraid to comment too much for fear I'll use some bad grammar.

[PUGalicious]

Some might say bad grammar and bad writing is bad manners.

[sweetdaisy]

Originally Posted by Scribe

Some might say bad grammar and bad writing is bad manners.

You are cracking me up today, scribe. LOVING IT!!!

[Karried]

A lest someone blame today's education system, as evidenced on this message board, the problem is not limited to younger generations; there are plenty of members from older generations just as guilty.

I'm still trying to figure out the above sentence in the original post.... 'A lest' ?

What's 'A lest '? :tweeted: (I think you meant And lest but maybe I'm wrong).


It's really easy to miss things ( and letters ) even when we are posting about grammar and punctuation.

However, I agree 100%, when I read poorly structured sentences and every other word is mispelled, I automatically think that this person may not be extremely educated.

Here's a trick, open Word and keep it running in another window minimized. Copy and paste your response onto Word - spell and grammar check and then copy and paste back onto your response post. Sounds complicated but takes about 1 minute.

But most posts I really don't care too much. I get the drift.

[Dungeon Master]

Oops, I found a miss spelled word in the original post (labeled in red).

Originally Posted by Scribe

When I read through the many posts on forums like this one, I'm amazed at how bad the writing, grammar and spelling is. It's a sad reflection on the education so many of us receive; or a sad reflection on our effort as graduates in utilizing the skills we were taught.

A perfectly good post can be diminished by bad grammar and spelling. Somehow, the credibility of someone's expertise or authority on a topic is tainted by bad writing. If people would take the time to read back through their posts, they would catch alot of their own errors.

A lest someone blame today's education system, as evidenced on this message board, the problem is not limited to younger generations; there are plenty of members from older generations just as guilty.

Language is how we communicate with one another. If we do not use the language correctly, the communication is less than effective — and it can lead to much of the misunderstanding that we find in today's debates.

[PUGalicious]

Originally Posted by Karried

I'm still trying to figure out the above sentence in the original post.... 'A lest' ?

What's 'A lest '? :tweeted: (I think you meant And lest but maybe I'm wrong).


It's really easy to miss things ( and letters ) even when we are posting about grammar and punctuation.

However, I agree 100%, when I read poorly structured sentences and every other word is mispelled, I automatically think that this person may not be extremely educated.

Here's a trick, open Word and keep it running in another window minimized. Copy and paste your response onto Word - spell and grammar check and then copy and paste back onto your response post. Sounds complicated but takes about 1 minute.

But most posts I really don't care too much. I get the drift.

Guilty as charged. Murphy's law.

To the point, though, I wasn't looking for perfection, but at least a decent attempt at getting it right. Some don't come close and you have to wonder if it's actually the English language.

[mranderson]

Originally Posted by Dungeon Master

Oops, I found a miss spelled word in the original post (labeled in red).

I am going to break my own rule. The word "alot" means to give out. Such as an alotment. The term which means a large number is "a lot."

[PUGalicious]

That would be "allot" — as in allotment.

Alot is a slang (or conversational) way of saying "much" or "often." Most people are familiar enough with it that it's become a midly acceptable substitute.

[Dungeon Master]

Oops, found another error by Scribe. Again, highlighted in red.
Read below.
I'm not picking on anybody. I'm just proving how easy it is for even the smart ones to goof on something so easy.


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Re: President on vacation — again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mranderson
I worry more about another bleeding heart like Clinton destroying the country than I do about other terrorists.


An absurb comment can only be based on profound ignorance or sheer delusion. Despite the scandals in his administration, the historical evidence shows that Clinton was better for the health of the country (primarily the well-being of its citizens) than the three most recent Republican administrations — the present one included.

Perhaps you would care to back up your viewpoint with some documented facts. I would certainly enjoy the opportunity to expound on mine.

Disclaimer: I didn't vote for Clinton either time. Additionally, I try to keep my viewpoint congruent with the facts.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mranderson
Bush can "vacation" as much as he wants. He could move the White House permanantly as far as I am concerned. The security of the country is just fine.


About as secure as we were August 2001.
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Wood u guys like uh speel xcher?

[mranderson]

Believe me. I make a lot of them. Most are because I post at work and have to take a phone call, causing me to lose my consentration.

[PUGalicious]

Guilty again.

Yet, I still stand by my original post. Missing a letter here or there is one thing. As I said a couple of posts ago, I wasn't demanding perfection. We all make mistakes. However, if you read through many of the mosts, you will find it's more than mere typos. It's ignorance in spelling and grammar.

I'm not afraid to admit I made a mistake. Keep pointing them out — it encourages me to do better next time.

[Dungeon Master]

Eye lyke Todd's lango. Eesier 2 reed.

I'm just trying to interject a little humor.

If there is demand for a spell checker I can certainly add one in.

[PUGalicious]

That would be nice, but people have to use them for them to work.

What would be nice is to have a little longer to be able to edit a post should we find an error. It seems to close off that feature rather quickly.

The time limit to edit a post is set at 60 minutes.

If you are creating a post and leave the window open with no activity for 10 minutes it will time-out and you will be forced to start over. The lesson here is to use word to write really long post and then just copy and paste.

What do you guys think the time to edit posts should be?

[Dungeon Master]

Gosh, I'm having fun now. Not only another misspelled word (again, in red) but the grammer too. It just needs to be revised.
Yahoooooo.

Ok, Ok. I think I'm done having fun now.
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Re: Target NW Expressway and May
No one is forcing anyone to continue this discussion. Those who choose to continue are choosing to continue; they can cease to participate at any time.

What was challenged was what some would argue is skewed sense of responsibility, unreasonable expectations and irrational reasoning. Everyone has the right to shop where they want; however, at the point someone makes it public, they open themselves to comments, observations and criticisms by that same public.

When people find others' comments harsh, unfair, ignorant or prejudiced, they will respond. That's the discussion that's occured in this thread. To quote my grandma, "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
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Originally Posted by Scribe

That would be nice, but people have to use them for them to work.

What would be nice is to have a little longer to be able to edit a post should we find an error. It seems to close off that feature rather quickly.

[PUGalicious]

Originally Posted by Todd

The time limit to edit a post is set at 60 minutes.

If you are creating a post and leave the window open with no activity for 10 minutes it will time-out and you will be forced to start over. The lesson here is to use word to write really long post and then just copy and paste.

What do you guys think the time to edit posts should be?

I'll just take your advice, especially now that I have Dungeon Master keeping me on my toes.

[PUGalicious]

Originally Posted by Dungeon Master

Gosh, I'm having fun now. Not only another misspelled word (again, in red) but the grammer too. It just needs to be revised.
Yahoooooo.

Ok, Ok. I think I'm done having fun now.
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Re: Target NW Expressway and May
No one is forcing anyone to continue this discussion. Those who choose to continue are choosing to continue; they can cease to participate at any time.

What was challenged was what some would argue is skewed sense of responsibility, unreasonable expectations and irrational reasoning. Everyone has the right to shop where they want; however, at the point someone makes it public, they open themselves to comments, observations and criticisms by that same public.

When people find others' comments harsh, unfair, ignorant or prejudiced, they will respond. That's the discussion that's occured in this thread. To quote my grandma, "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
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Got me again.

Now, can we see how others stack up? (Errors per word count would be a good barometer.)

[Dungeon Master]

Hey Scribe, it's all in fun. I'm by no means a good typist. I just get lucky and use the hell out of spell check in "Word" a lot. I have to admit, my grammer and such really sucks. I guess I can blame it on the fact that I spent the money my mother gave me on girls and not school. What in the world was I thinking?

Again, it's all in fun.
Have a good day.

[PUGalicious]

No problem. Thanks for sharing!