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    Quote Originally Posted by JerzeeGrlinOKC View Post
    Why?
    They are the ones who have aggressively hounded Wal-Mart for years. It is on the leftist hate list. Even people in areas where there is no wal mart hate them. When I visit NYC, I get earfulls from people who have never set foot in Wal Mart going on and on about the way they treat women, run out ma and pa shops, its alleged lack of benefits, blah, blah, blah.

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    They are the ones who have aggressively hounded Wal-Mart for years. It is on the leftist hate list. Even people in areas where there is no wal mart hate them. When I visit NYC, I get earfulls from people who have never set foot in Wal Mart going on and on about the way they treat women, run out ma and pa shops, its alleged lack of benefits, blah, blah, blah.
    I am a Democrat and am not particularly pro-union, and I dislike Walmart because many of their "cheap" products are inferior (or you can find them cheaper elsewhere), they destroy local economies in small towns (and this is true, I watch it happen in Oklahoma every year), and going to and from a Walmart is frustrating and depressing. The biggest beef I have is that people seem to think that Walmart is the cheapest place to shop, and in the long run, it is not. You will end up buying more at Walmart than you would otherwise. That is the shopper's fault, but I still dislike Walmart because of their false promises and misleading advertising. They will match competitors prices, but on the whole, people don't even bother to check and Walmart wins. Maybe it is the Walmart shoppers that insist on only shopping there (and who call me an elitist because I don't) that bug me more than Walmart itself does, who knows - after all, Walmart is an avatar for our desire for convenience and abundant cheap crap. And BTW, I shopped at Walmart when I was a student and lived in NJ, yes we have those, and I learned that they are not the cheapest place out there before I stopped going.

    My bigger point is, why are you trying to lump people who don't like Walmart into convenient categorical stereotypes? There are so many reasons to hate Walmart, and so many different people out there. I hate to say this, but I'm sure you'll find plenty of people dependent on the state shopping at Walmart (are they "leftists" too?) on the 1st of the month. I just don't get how this is a partisan issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerzeeGrlinOKC View Post
    I am a Democrat and am not particularly pro-union, and I dislike Walmart because many of their "cheap" products are inferior (or you can find them cheaper elsewhere), they destroy local economies in small towns (and this is true, I watch it happen in Oklahoma every year), and going to and from a Walmart is frustrating and depressing. The biggest beef I have is that people seem to think that Walmart is the cheapest place to shop, and in the long run, it is not. You will end up buying more at Walmart than you would otherwise. That is the shopper's fault, but I still dislike Walmart because of their false promises and misleading advertising. They will match competitors prices, but on the whole, people don't even bother to check and Walmart wins. Maybe it is the Walmart shoppers that insist on only shopping there (and who call me an elitist because I don't) that bug me more than Walmart itself does, who knows - after all, Walmart is an avatar for our desire for convenience and abundant cheap crap. And BTW, I shopped at Walmart when I was a student and lived in NJ, yes we have those, and I learned that they are not the cheapest place out there before I stopped going.

    My bigger point is, why are you trying to lump people who don't like Walmart into convenient categorical stereotypes? There are so many reasons to hate Walmart, and so many different people out there. I hate to say this, but I'm sure you'll find plenty of people dependent on the state shopping at Walmart (are they "leftists" too?) on the 1st of the month. I just don't get how this is a partisan issue.
    Perhaps you haven't read the leftist rants on the subject. I already told you why I lump the leftist in this, i.e., the ones in liberal areas that have never set foot in them but know all about their many sins and are so vocal about it. Clearly, that is not about anything other than what they have read or believe. They turn it into practically a religious calling.

    For what it is worth, if someone doesn't like Wal Mart just because they don't like Wal Mart due to bad service, more power to them. Those aren't the ones that bug me. The ones that bug me are the ones who have systematically tried to make this an issue to run them out on a rail based on their management policies that don't meet the standard set by the pro union groups. And if you don't think this has been a systematic, big money campaign to discredit and coerce Wal Mart, I have to think you are just uninformed on that note. No offense.

    But for all the reasons you don't like it, I can tell you that when I raised my kids, I was one of those value shoppers and it made all the difference in what I could afford for my kids. People who don't get how difficult it is to put food on the table, and who look down their nose at struggling young families (and you may not be one of them but many are) just don't get it. There are going to be things that aren't cheaper but someone would have to be on another planet to actually believe that overall, you aren't saving. As an individual or family, you are definitely saving. I was more concerned about feeding my family than what was going on at the corporate level. And I am not one bit ashamed of that. When you only have five bucks, you make it stretch. And I did my comparison shopping, many times. I am confident that you aren't usually going to beat a Wal Mart price.

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    One of the reasons I enjoy where I live is that within a 4 sq mile area I can go to WalMart SuperCenter, Buy for Less, Crest, WalMart Neighborhood Market, Braums Market, Homeland and just outside that area is an Aldi's. Using the weekly flyers, coupons and comparing...I can choose which store I want to spend my money. Isn't America great!!

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    And I would guess all you can say to small town America who probably only has a Wal-Mart, or very maybe a Brahm's, too, out of all the store names you mentioned, is to come to the Oklahoma City metro area and join us.

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    I believe this is a total lie.
    Is it so unbelievable that someone can go without Wal-mart for over 3 years? If so, I feel sorry for you. I am 29, unmarried, and childless. I can afford to have principles regarding the businesses to which I give my money.

    The last time I made any monetary transactions with Wal-mart was a couple of years ago. I found a package of underwear, seemingly unopened, while cleaning my apartment. The top of the package was a resealable ziplock type closure. I opened up the package of three white briefs, which I didn't recognize nor did I remember ever purchasing, to find the receipt tucked away inside. I decided to venture into the old place of past torment to return the mysterious undergarments and keep the cash. The price for those particular undies had gone up in from the time they were purchased. Not only did I take money back from them when given the opportunity, but I made about 40 cents out of the deal. I relished every moment of it.

    Believe it, Philistine. You simpleminded consumer of cheap Chinese goods and profiteer of unsavory business practices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezrablum View Post
    Is it so unbelievable that someone can go without Wal-mart for over 3 years? If so, I feel sorry for you. I am 29, unmarried, and childless. I can afford to have principles regarding the businesses to which I give my money.

    The last time I made any monetary transactions with Wal-mart was a couple of years ago. I found a package of underwear, seemingly unopened, while cleaning my apartment. The top of the package was a resealable ziplock type closure. I opened up the package of three white briefs, which I didn't recognize nor did I remember ever purchasing, to find the receipt tucked away inside. I decided to venture into the old place of past torment to return the mysterious undergarments and keep the cash. The price for those particular undies had gone up in from the time they were purchased. Not only did I take money back from them when given the opportunity, but I made about 40 cents out of the deal. I relished every moment of it.

    Believe it, Philistine. You simpleminded consumer of cheap Chinese goods and profiteer of unsavory business practices.
    Classy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezrablum View Post
    Is it so unbelievable that someone can go without Wal-mart for over 3 years? If so, I feel sorry for you. I am 29, unmarried, and childless. I can afford to have principles regarding the businesses to which I give my money.

    The last time I made any monetary transactions with Wal-mart was a couple of years ago. I found a package of underwear, seemingly unopened, while cleaning my apartment. The top of the package was a resealable ziplock type closure. I opened up the package of three white briefs, which I didn't recognize nor did I remember ever purchasing, to find the receipt tucked away inside. I decided to venture into the old place of past torment to return the mysterious undergarments and keep the cash. The price for those particular undies had gone up in from the time they were purchased. Not only did I take money back from them when given the opportunity, but I made about 40 cents out of the deal. I relished every moment of it.

    Believe it, Philistine. You simpleminded consumer of cheap Chinese goods and profiteer of unsavory business practices.
    Gee, I wonder why you're unmarried...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PennyQuilts View Post
    Perhaps you haven't read the leftist rants on the subject. I already told you why I lump the leftist in this, i.e., the ones in liberal areas that have never set foot in them but know all about their many sins and are so vocal about it. Clearly, that is not about anything other than what they have read or believe. They turn it into practically a religious calling.

    For what it is worth, if someone doesn't like Wal Mart just because they don't like Wal Mart due to bad service, more power to them. Those aren't the ones that bug me. The ones that bug me are the ones who have systematically tried to make this an issue to run them out on a rail based on their management policies that don't meet the standard set by the pro union groups. And if you don't think this has been a systematic, big money campaign to discredit and coerce Wal Mart, I have to think you are just uninformed on that note. No offense.

    But for all the reasons you don't like it, I can tell you that when I raised my kids, I was one of those value shoppers and it made all the difference in what I could afford for my kids. People who don't get how difficult it is to put food on the table, and who look down their nose at struggling young families (and you may not be one of them but many are) just don't get it. There are going to be things that aren't cheaper but someone would have to be on another planet to actually believe that overall, you aren't saving. As an individual or family, you are definitely saving. I was more concerned about feeding my family than what was going on at the corporate level. And I am not one bit ashamed of that. When you only have five bucks, you make it stretch. And I did my comparison shopping, many times. I am confident that you aren't usually going to beat a Wal Mart price.
    I completely agree with this. Wal-Mart might not win the price war EVERY time, but they are DEFINITELY cheaper as a whole. And it's not close. And I'm not even talking about their cheap-quality products. IDENTICAL products are MUCH cheaper than other stores.

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    I have recently stopped shopping at Walmart and their Markets due to the fact I just don't have the time any more to stand forever in their LINES. They have cut costs by never staffing their cash registers.

    If one goes to CREST the have most of the cash registers going.

    Sam's club has the same issue, they only have 1 or 2 registers going all the time and many times you get in their line they will CLOSE it when you get close to the register and send you to another line. The days of Walmart are starting to catch up with them. I seriously don't think the KIDS that are running the store now get customer service.

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    ... IDENTICAL products are MUCH cheaper than other stores.
    Toss in a 'Some' before Identical and I can easily concur. On that note, the combination of a WM for many things and a $ General for several other things and there's a potent savings combination. I realize not everyone has a $G that is convenient, but for those who do and must watch coin, they ought to get to know its stock if they don't already know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunty View Post
    And I would guess all you can say to small town America who probably only has a Wal-Mart, or very maybe a Brahm's, too, out of all the store names you mentioned, is to come to the Oklahoma City metro area and join us.
    Well, after spending most of my Saturday mornings around the ole potbelly stove at Copenhavers (General Store) in Elkview, WV, it's nice to have a choice now. Of course, they did have the best canned green beans and yelloweye beans, something ya can't get out here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by td25er View Post
    Gee, I wonder why you're unmarried...
    Unwillingness to settle for a relationship that isn't ideal, watching marriages all around me fester and crumble, pessimism towards the "sanctity" of marriage, optimism in the single life and the rewards that lie therein, inability to be cajoled into marriage by the one-track minded sheep around me (including the ones that raised me). I am no breeder, what then would be the point of marriage? I believe there are enough selfish people in this world increasing the population without much consideration for the future. Some of us have to attempt to control the population for those of you who can not.

    But we digress. I believe Wal-mart was the issue at hand?

    Oh that's right. Get married, have babies, buy all of your junk at Wal-mart and be a part of the problem instead of the solution.

    That's just my opinion. No need to criticize my personal life for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demoman2k10 View Post
    I have recently stopped shopping at Walmart and their Markets due to the fact I just don't have the time any more to stand forever in their LINES. They have cut costs by never staffing their cash registers.

    If one goes to CREST the have most of the cash registers going.

    Sam's club has the same issue, they only have 1 or 2 registers going all the time and many times you get in their line they will CLOSE it when you get close to the register and send you to another line. The days of Walmart are starting to catch up with them. I seriously don't think the KIDS that are running the store now get customer service.

    True that. That's definitely part of the Wal-mart dilemma. It's actually one of their policies to only have a few lanes open at any given time. I worked for them for a year, back in 99'-00'. Now, why would you build so many registers at the front of your store if your policy was to only have a few open at a time? I suppose it would be to pull the wool over shopper's eyes and lull them into thinking that they initially would be able to service large amounts of people in a timely manner, back when they first opened up. Eventually you don't think about the fact that you never see more than 4 lanes open, it's just the way things are. Tradition sets in and you are doomed forever to a 15 minute long checkout time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezrablum View Post
    Unwillingness to settle for a relationship that isn't ideal, watching marriages all around me fester and crumble, pessimism towards the "sanctity" of marriage, optimism in the single life and the rewards that lie therein, inability to be cajoled into marriage by the one-track minded sheep around me (including the ones that raised me). I am no breeder, what then would be the point of marriage? I believe there are enough selfish people in this world increasing the population without much consideration for the future. Some of us have to attempt to control the population for those of you who can not.

    But we digress. I believe Wal-mart was the issue at hand?

    Oh that's right. Get married, have babies, buy all of your junk at Wal-mart and be a part of the problem instead of the solution.

    That's just my opinion. No need to criticize my personal life for it.
    My, aren't we judgmental. Get married if you want, don't marry if you don't want. I wouldn't worry too much about what the rest of the world does or doesn't do.

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