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Old 11-17-2009, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by decepticobra View Post
the natives protected it, when the ships arrived is when it started going downhill.

speaking of indian reservations, why do they get the worst land? (deserts, barren prairies, etc).... it was all their land to start with, shouldnt they be the ones putting everyone else on reservations, and deciding where we should live instead?

what do you suppose are the chances of the entire californian coastline being entirely indian land today?. yeah, right.
Why do you think they got the worst land? You need to think this through.

First, not all of them got "bad" land. Eastern Oklahoma is pretty sweet unless you were a farmer like the Cherokees, then you had to sneak off to Missouri.

But those deserts, etc. in Arizona and New Mexico WAS the native land of the Indians on the current reservations. And there were a lot of places with spiritual significance to them. Fact is, for those areas, we didn't want it and it was their home, so there you go. It is not like they stuck the Mohawks out there. You are showing ignorance and (perhaps) a Northern European heritage to assume that those deserts and so forth weren't valuable to the native people living there. It ain't no Ireland but - hey - for that matter, the Europeans left Ireland in droves.

I agree that a lot of plains Indians got shifted around outside their native lands but the lands they were sent to didn't suck. They just weren't home and we can all appreciate that.

And just what California Indians were put on reservations? Name a tribe, any tribe.

The Native Americans were, in large part, a conquered people. That they were allowed to keep any land at all says something. The history of the Native Americans is not all that different, in many ways, than what happened to people on the European continent, repeatedly, over the centuries. Or any other people on any other continent. At least we didn't enslave the Native Americans - that was common for centuries for fallen nations in Europe. And Native Americans did enslave each other. Or have you forgotten that many of the native americans were extremely warlike? They weren't all vegetarians and basket weavers. I suggest you read up on it.

All that being said, I cut my teeth on Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee and don't dispute that they were treated horribly. I am just saying that was the history of the world. And don't think for two seconds that it won't be repeated somewhere, again and again. Man is vicious when he wants something.

Back to topic, though.
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