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Old 08-17-2008, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Homeland Security: What Constitution?

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Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
They have? First of all, they "can" and "have been" doing what exactly? Making copies and returning the originals to the users? Or holding onto the laptops indefinitely?

Have you actually read the policy memos? They do not state that there's an "indefinite" period of time, but rather that the agency may only hold the laptops for a "reasonable" amount of time. Original hardware is only seized when absolutely necessary.

What is "reasonable" is a question of fact, but I assume if you have your computer locked down and encrypted 'til hell won't have it, the detention time for your hardware will probably be longer than, say, my law school computer which has nothing of real interest on it.



Wha? First off, you have not shown to me that this has ever happened or that the power is being abused. Not one example.

Secondly, this is not a new grant of power. Homeland Security is merely printing up policies and procedures for dealing with suspected digital contraband. This is merely cataloging and explaining how a certain governmental power (the power to inspect things entering and leaving the country) will be executed. It's high time customs had a policy for dealing with such material. Welcome to the 21st century.
Don't challenge me about proof. I don't usually say stuff unless I have it. Here's one article: Privacy Vs. Border Security: Critics Say Laptop Searches Cross the Line
It was referenced through an aggregated article on Inside Higher Ed.

Here's an article that appeared just this past Thursday (August 14, 2008) in the Green Bay newspaper:
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...=2008808140621

And here's my personal favorite, an article that came out just last week, where the Feds are finally admitting that they do this. I pulled this one from the Buffalo News, but it appeared in a lot of different places. I believe I probably saw it first on the ABC news website.
Feds holding laptops : Opinion : The Buffalo News
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