plmcord, keep in mind this is a statement coming from DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION. You make true statements about the whole city needing coverage, but this a association representing needs of people who live downtown. I encourage you to organize something on a much larger scale that encompasses the entire city as well as to attend the city council's transit workshop at the zoo on Aug. 19th. Not to mention as soonerguru pointed out, we have a window now to do something. The city isn't going to build a multi-billion dollar system from scratch. To get it to work in this city, it will have to be a downtown circular that will easily get supported, and then build it out from there. Given how our city has operated for decades, this is probably the only realistic way to get a modern system in place.