That's no lie, I bought a laptop from Best Buy, and it took me TWO FREAKIN DAYS to get all the preinstalled junk off of it (and I'm a friggin' Windows SA). Norton is the absolute worst too. It's 10x as bad as any bug I've manually removed.

I've gotten to the point to where I run a software/hardware firewalls, and call it good. I've not had any sort of bug in 5 years.

*knocks on silicone*