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Originally Posted by betts
There is an elevator maintenance contract you can purchase for about $500 a year, or you can simply pay for an inspector to come out once a year and inspect the elevator for even less (I checked on this). I was told that residential elevators are rarely a maintenance problem because of their low use. I calculated all the costs of maintenance on the brownstones, and they came out to far less than I am paying for my house in terms of yard maintenance, tree maintenance, painting, etc.
In addition, because of the build-block construction and heat pump, they're estimating utility costs will be about half of the usual amount for a house that size.
Do I think the brownstones will hold their value? How does anyone know the answer to that regarding any house nowadays? If downtown development continues as it has been, then yes, I think they will keep their value. I think the movement of Sandridge downtown, the statement by Larry Nichols that Devon is going to increase employees, all of whom will work downtown, as well as the addition of retail and grocery store, pharmacy, potential improvement of mass transit, etc will increase the desirability of downtown living, which will at least ensure that homes there keep their value. If more people live downtown it may be more attractive for other businesses to relocate downtown.
If you look at how the brownstones are built, it's not surprising that they are as expensive as they are. How many of the houses in Edmond mentioned above have slate roofs, all brick construction,cast stone trim, copper guttering and 8 inch concrete and rebar exterior walls? Inside the floors are wood, all granite countertops, three fireplaces per townhowe. That kind of construction is expensive.
New things are always a bit of a gamble, but I like the idea of a gamble when everyone I talk to things it's an exciting idea. I've got multiple friends who are talking about moving downtown and several who are already there and love it. It would be really nice if there was housing for people of all income levels downtown, but this is a bit of a gamble for the developers as well, and they're probably just now figuring things out. When the Centennial was built, there weren't even any downtown comps for the appraisers to use, I was told. So, this is a learning process for everyone and hopefully developers interested in lower priced housing will figure this out.
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I use to work on large equipment ..including elevators...and the lack of use isn't a good thing..
I grew up in the DC area and urban living has been in that area for a while...A lot of the older places that do have elevators don't sell as well because most aren't working. As for the 500 bucks a year..that will last only as long as they are working. Once the elevators start having problems the price will go up. It isn't like calling a plumber to come out and fix a leak. My point to my friend was to look down the road a few years...Upkeep can become a big issue and just look around OKC...
Another thing about urban living is pollution...This will take a greater toll on the housing than living in the rural. The one thing that made me laugh was that some of the brownstones have outside decks....They are nice right now but if the downtown are becomes the place to live and play the traffic will increase and so will the smog...If you go to Alexandria VA and and visit the Town homes that have been their a long time the ones that really sell are the one's with a small back yard. Urban living with a little green. I have friends that live in places somewhat like the brownstones and some of them have upper outside decks..and they hardly get used.
I think they are a great idea and living in them would be fun..but to plop down a million bucks is a big gamble..Downtown is growing but will downtown explode? Will stores pop up all over the place..? Heck there isn't enough parking now. Just think how fun it will be if we all move downtown...
I hope they work but I would be willing to bet that most of the people working at Devon can't afford million dollar house.