my whole point i tried to mention was lost.

i just wanted city dropped in name particularly for reasons that it's not as marketable.

Tribe being un-PC? have you not heard of tribal music or tribal beats?

it's the most ancient rhythmic sound of music known. every ancient culture native to it's continent has mutually-linked sounds to other cultures of other continents mostly by beats of drums. i guess since "gang" & "clan" are abused, so will tribe. That's a big "NO" freakin' way. Tribe is the one name linked to a group of like-minded or culturally similar group that hasn't been ruined by our own behaviors. i think it's important & we have a very unique opportunity to make a sports name something that means more then an animal or weather. landmark changes happen swiftly but they also can be missed just the same. i hope we can do something that could bring us all together including people who have no real interest in sports.

having image of team & sound etc. based around an amalgam of all these tribes does not make it racist.

to be afraid of that is to be afraid of calling it anything that might have anything of importance when talking about symbolism. anyway, some music & some of the half-time shows would partially be filled by inviting different cultural musicians that would fit in the mold of the word "Tribe" from around the world to play at some of the halftime shows (including some country for cowboys, goat-roaping [varying sides of oklahoma life & entertainment-not just world native culture], japanese drummers, hawaiian/tahitian/etc.) . there is no way it would be looked at by people as racist when it's framed in this way & it's a good promotional tool for the NBA team & nearly lost cultures of the world.

problem is no one gets it or cares to try to make this into something bigger then any of the other NBA team names. sure i sound like a crackpot, but i paid tickets when hornets were here, i supported them i voted yes for tax, i'm gonna' buy season tickets for whatever the team name will be. so yea, i feel like i can talk about this & voice my opinion. the politicians only care about making sure the city's name is posted everywhere for the city's sake & has anyone asked what they care about the team's name? no, they don't care & i would bet they didn't fight for the rights to keep the name here either. all they care about is that the city is in it's name.

i post too much apparently. but i do care about the name & i don't want to be stuck going to a team that has a name with no soul.

you can read the rest of my rant:

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i would like to start a petition to keep it just oklahoma, add tribe but the name would be the sole rights to the okc metro area. i understand most of you don't like it anyway, but humor me by taking a look at the blog-post. i'm at least trying to make something happen that i believe in by sending e-mail to the mayor & clay bennett group. arguing about what we like on this site is not going to make it happen. at the very least, email the mayor & email the clay bennett group (in the blog from myspace link) to tell them what you'd like & why. they need to know from people that actually give a sh*t, not from too many study groups.

oh, & apologies from my earlier post. this topic brings out a lot in most of us cause it's exciting & scary & could easily blow up in our face. hey, might as well have fun arguing about it. & don't fear the bully posters who like to muscle people around with their high post numbers. i came here from googlin' but forum behaviors are all the same.

one last thing about tribe being un pc. The US governement put many of our ancestors here by force or by irresistable land prices (land run). They systematically tried to kill a whole race. Some of our ancestors lived stories in the Grapes of Wrath, being persecuted as something below most people in the country. our state went through more trials that would cause civil war in the rest of the country, but we survived from literally falling apart at the seams. we now have opportunity to pay tribute to our ancestery & all everyone can say is how un PC that is (what would people think). we are going to be criticized no matter what we do. we might as well do something that pays tribute to our statehood. have some pride in the state & make the NBA team in oklahoma city something we can go to and feel like it's our team.