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Originally Posted by bandnerd
Doug, these are not "tales" as they are out in the open. These things were said, I believe, on the forum, not in private messages.
All I'm saying is that no one is perfect, and frankly, Keith and Patrick are no exceptions. Neither am I. But obviously, a line was crossed, and something was done about it. People saying they were great people and great contributors irks me because I saw a different side of both of them and I guess others either never saw that, or they conveniently forgot.
And I will politely back out of this thread now, as it is apparent that I have nothing useful to add, at least nothing that anyone would like to hear.
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Bandnerd, I have no knowledge of what you said about Patrick and the gift item was mentioned "publically" in this forum. I rarely venture beyone current Okc & Bricktown stuff, so I'm largely ignorant of what is posted in other elements of OkcTalk since that's not "where I want to go." If, as you suggest, what you alluded to is already in the "public" arena, a link would easily demonstrate that.
We do agree, though, that "no one" is perfect ... including me. I've already "exposed" part of my own imperfection in the 1st post I made in this thread. I made a "knee-jerk" reaction to something long since past ... guys at OkcTalk did, too. Knee-jerks all the way around! But, thanks to the Downtown Guy, ... well, I've already said that.
I have enjoyed reading your messages elsewhere here and have no reason to disrespect either you or your ideas or opinions. And, I don't.
So, when you said, "... as it is apparent that I have nothing useful to add, at least nothing that anyone would like to hear...," if you meant to say that I wasn't opening to listening and considering your thoughts, and I mean, "really" listening, that's just not so.
But, if you think that it's OK for me to tell a "private" story about you (and we've never met so that's an impossiblity) in the public area of this forum, that is where we have to part company. That's
never ever an Ok thing to do. I've not read the TOC in a long long while, but I have to assume that there's probably something in there about that. And that's even all the more true when the object of the private story lacks the capacity to respond, i.e., a "banned" member with thousands of posts prior to his banishment, and, in this instance, one of the few who developed this forum into become the place that we, you, me, lots of others, enjoy. There are
always at least two sides to every story. Always. It's
never any other way. That concept is probably one of those unwritten "god-things" ... something that is universally, always, and invariably, true.
Make sense?